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Title: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 04, 2013, 07:50:03 pm
Hello friends,
I'm from Czech Republic and I'm posting my work here. I will appreciate your comments. I would like meet here some of you who likes plains bows and I would like to exchange some experience etc. I'm loking for a pictures of an original plains bow mainly design. I offer same from my database.
Thank you and I'm looking forward to see you here.

http://takintazipa.webnode.cz/
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on April 04, 2013, 07:59:46 pm
Nice website. I like the plains indian bows, except for one thing- they are rather annoyingly loud.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 04, 2013, 08:08:41 pm
Hi, please explain me what does it mean  annoyingly loud.
thank you.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 04, 2013, 08:53:28 pm
I'm looking for Eastern Red Cedar [juniper virginiana] staves, 50inch. long. Thank for help.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Newindian on April 04, 2013, 09:07:07 pm
I don't think the noise level is caused by the design
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: osage outlaw on April 04, 2013, 09:16:10 pm
Hello friends,
I'm from Czech Republic and I'm posting my work here. I will appreciate your comments. I would like meet here some of you who likes plains bows and I would like to exchange some experience etc. I'm loking for a pictures of an original plains bow mainly design. I offer same from my database.
Thank you and I'm looking forward to see you here.

http://takintazipa.webnode.cz/

You should look up Indianguy on here.  He posts some amazing Native American plains bows.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 04, 2013, 09:25:26 pm

You should look up Indianguy on here.  He posts some amazing Native American plains bows.
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thank you.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Pat B on April 05, 2013, 01:01:51 am
Beautiful work, Takintazipa. I have a desire to build this style bow.    Jackcrafty(Patrick) makes some beautiful Plains style bows and arrows. Check out the "How To" section here and look for Jackcrafty's work. Also Robustus has made Plains style sinew/wood/horn style bows along with the Asiatic Horn Bows he makes.
 You might Google The Smithsonian Institute and the Museum of the American Indian for pics and info about many Native American style bows and arrows.
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Post by: Gordon on April 05, 2013, 01:43:47 am
You do some nice work.
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Post by: simson on April 05, 2013, 02:01:05 am
Nice work! Where are you exactly located - perhaps we are nearby?
Here are my attempts on plains style bows:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,35595.0.html?PHPSESSID=ojscmbeir9rl5rm6ccho63ej64
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,36287.0.html
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Pappy on April 05, 2013, 08:26:40 am
Beautiful work,can't help with the plans style bow.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Christian Soldier on April 05, 2013, 09:57:29 am
Good work man.

I'm working on a Plains style bow now. I haven't finished one before but I really like the look and design.

Keep up the good work.  :)
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Post by: Parnell on April 05, 2013, 10:49:54 am
I've made 3.  Got my designs from Allely & Hamm's Encyclopedia Volume II.  I was following designs from the Cheyenne tribe and kept them at 50".  Selfbows, so far.  Here is a very short video of my first effort shooting, made of Hop Hornbeam.  It's no louder than any other bow.  You can here the arrow passing the bow in this video, but there was no wrap to dampen the sound.  I actually find that the short "plains" style bows are easier to make efficient, without vibration or twang because you HAVE to get all the wood working and focus on tiller.  I'd hunt with them out to about 15 yards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=42CJv26LLQc&safe=active
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 06, 2013, 12:51:03 am
Hi guys,
I'm interest in original bows pictures. I have all from AMNH, US lokal museums or from auction's database. I just ask, iff somebody have something special, for instance, something never published etc.
I do bows over 20 years, and iff you checked my pages /gallery/ you have seen that I do plains bows with small or no differences from originals.
I have no any problems with shape or technology problems; I just want to have ispiration by design of originals.
Problem is, that some of beautifull bows are in the quiver on picture, but the quiver covered the design of bow.
Thank's for your complimet's. :)
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Horse Thief Killer on April 10, 2013, 11:22:38 pm
I think they look great. I think just a plain one or maybe a little paint would be fine. One thing I do like is the added small arrow rest which the Souix did include in their bows sometimes. You should expand out into other tribes Cree, Blackfoot, Pawnee, Nakota(Stone Souix),Cheyenne etc. They all have there slight differences. You should check Indianguy he does make fine museum quality pieces.
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Post by: burchett.donald on April 11, 2013, 12:22:40 am
Those quivers are awesome...nice work on everything
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 12, 2013, 08:20:41 pm
Nice work! Where are you exactly located - perhaps we are nearby?
Hi Simon, actualy I'm staying in Prague, but I live on the North.

Your bows are nice.

Maybe we can make some meeting together.
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Post by: okiecountryboy on April 12, 2013, 09:11:00 pm
You do some beautiful work. Quivers are really sweet.

Ron
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Post by: tipi stuff on April 13, 2013, 08:20:18 am
Takintazipa, I have some pictures of a little sinew backed Lakota bow that I will try to send you later today. I will have to dig around a bit to see if I can find any measurements for it. Seems like it is about 44 inches (112 cm) long. It is at a little museum in Cleburne, Texas.     Curtis
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 13, 2013, 11:03:50 am
This is not the bow from Cleburne, but another that you may not have photos of. It is not sinew backed, but I thought you might be interested anyway. I did not take these pictures, but had them in my files. This is a bow that is in the Wyoming State Museum. The label says Shoshoni. It also says the wood is willow.  Curtis
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 13, 2013, 11:18:22 am
Here are some photos of the Lakota bow in Cleburne. I have some better photos of the over-all bow, but I do not have them with me currently. I will post them when I have a chance.   Curtis
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 13, 2013, 03:29:28 pm
O'h guys this is what I'm looking for. Thank you. Both bow are beautifull. Because I study the color -design, the first one is for me much better, but the shape of the second one is something amazing. Pity is, that many bows are in the quivers on the photographs, so its difficult to find some with paintings. Do you have some pictures of Cheyenne bow with paintings? I have only two, one is white with green and red strips and second one is just carved with small drawings.

Curtis do you have an idea what kind of wood is made this Lakota bow?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 13, 2013, 03:37:17 pm
I'm not sure of the type wood on the Lakota bow, but it is very likely ash. It is not Osage orange. I will have to see what else I can come up with. I have a lot of my photos on a flash drive that I have left at work. I'll try to run by there and pick it up this evening (still afternoon here right now).    Curtis
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 13, 2013, 04:00:18 pm
Curtis thank you for your goodwill. You can use the electronic data box, where you can load your data, and I can download that.
I don't know the U.S data banks, only Czech, so it's up to you what is comfortable for you. Iff you have same interest, I can do same to you.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 13, 2013, 04:09:10 pm
my work- bows:

http://takintazipa.webnode.cz/photogallery/photogallerycbm_253282/10/

http://takintazipa.webnode.cz/photogallery/photogallerycbm_253282/20/
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Don on April 13, 2013, 06:14:21 pm
Takintazipa, you do nice work.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 13, 2013, 09:33:28 pm
to Don> thank you.


It's some body here, who is able to trade me wood. Somebody who is willing and open to communicate with me about this.
I need eastern cedar/juniper/, hickory, black ash etc., kind of wood which we have not here. Nobody trade this kind of wood here, so it's difficult to obtain. Thanks for your offers. please write me here> takintazipa@gmail.com
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 10:52:50 am
I have some more bow photos for you, but these are photos that were taken by other people. Many of these do not have a tribe listed. Some of these are not that clear, but there are probably quite a few that you do not have.  I will send these in several e-mails.     Curtis
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:01:12 am
Bow from Copenhagen with snake skin, quillwork and horse hair.  CC
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:04:41 am
This one is not sinew backed, but is a great example of a Comanche self bow with a solid collection history. It was collected after a battle at a Comanche village in Texas.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:07:00 am
These are mostly Cheyenne bows, but the images are not great. If I can remember who I got these from, I will see if I can bet some better copies.  CC
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:17:34 am
Here is a sampling of bows from various places. Some of these are sinew backed and some are not.   CC
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:18:49 am
A couple more sinew backed.  CC
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Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:21:38 am
Two Sioux bows from the Branly museum. CC
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Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:28:40 am
Almost finished.  CC
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Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:34:53 am
Last of the wood bows. CC
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Post by: tipi stuff on April 14, 2013, 11:36:11 am
A couple of elk antler bows for good measure.  CC
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Post by: Oglala Bowyer on April 14, 2013, 11:38:40 am
Sorry takintazipa I can't assist you with black ash or any other of the woods you had in mind. Over here it's mainly white ash and some green ash. Nice bows by the way.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: Takintazipa on April 14, 2013, 06:56:28 pm
 :) :) ;D
Thank you guys, these picture are great. When I finish next bow, I will post him here.
T.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: tipi stuff on May 04, 2013, 09:49:30 pm
Here is one from Buechel Museum. This is a Lakota bow.   CC
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Post by: Bryce H on October 17, 2013, 09:22:40 pm
This is SUCH a great thread.
Title: Re: Native american Plains sinew backed bows
Post by: SLIMBOB on October 17, 2013, 11:27:59 pm
Send tipi stuff a pm. Lots of original pictures and his recreations as well. Self and sinew backed both. Lots of other southern Cheyenne stuff as well.