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Title: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on April 25, 2013, 02:02:35 pm
I just finished this red oak flat bow. Pretty simple. 58" NTN draws 35# @ 27". 1.5" wide at the handle . parallel limbs until the last 12 ", then tapering to 1/2" at the tips. I did a leather handle wrap. I learned a lot in the process of making this bow. I want to make my next one in this same style but with a 40-45 # draw weight. I've shot  about 70 arrows threw it so far. Sorry, I don't have a lot build pics. I'll try to document the next one.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Onebowonder on April 25, 2013, 02:07:52 pm
Looks pretty good so far, ...but we'll be needing a FullDraw pic! :)

OneBow
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Hrothgar on April 25, 2013, 02:10:07 pm
Nice job with a simple design, brace profile looks good too.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on April 25, 2013, 02:37:29 pm
brace actually look's like the outer limbs aren't bending  and the middle is doing it all, can you post a full draw
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: blackhawk on April 25, 2013, 02:39:55 pm
Bub beat me to it.....yeah...you need more bend from mid limb out,and too much is bending in and around the handle...but congrats on getting a shooter
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: ionicmuffin on April 25, 2013, 02:47:13 pm
im not sure what to think, if it was over stressed in the middle then why did it only take like an inch of set? its a bit weird because all my bows which bend more evenly are much higher set. so im wondering if maybe his tiller isnt so bad after all.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on April 25, 2013, 03:10:20 pm
I do think the outer limbs should bend more. I need to get someone to shoot a pic while I draw the bow.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on April 25, 2013, 03:27:38 pm
I do almost all my f/d shots with the timer on my camera if that's an option
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Ifrit617 on April 25, 2013, 07:31:58 pm
+1 with what the others said. It needs more bend in the limbs. I'd check for chrysals under that handle wrap too. Oak has a tendency to chrysal easily. Like you said, this bow was a great learning experience, and hopefully your next one will be even better!  ;D Nice job.

Jon
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: dwardo on April 26, 2013, 05:46:53 am
I do almost all my f/d shots with the timer on my camera if that's an option

Me too after my missus complaining so much. Usually takes several attempts mind.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on April 26, 2013, 11:23:27 am
I took a shot with the timer. didn't come out great but I can see that outter limbs are not bending enough. I flipped the pic and added some guide lines to help see the symmetry.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 26, 2013, 11:37:00 am
Mike the braced pic rarely lies. When your braced bow has a traingular shape to it, your drawn profile will to most often. You need some serious wood removal on the whole limbs. Leave the center 12" alone.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: adb on April 26, 2013, 04:20:58 pm
What's happening at brace is only magnified at full draw.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on May 01, 2013, 05:16:38 pm
OK. I've been reworking it. I've done a lot of scraping to get to this point. It's not there yet but it's moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: TacticalFate on May 01, 2013, 05:25:50 pm
Better, still needs a bunch more work in the outer limbs. My guess is that you'll be down to at least 25lbs by the time it's fixed up.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Squirrelslayer on May 01, 2013, 05:56:45 pm
getting there, is it just me or does the part below the fade on the bottom limb bending more than the one on the top? SS
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubbles on May 01, 2013, 07:12:20 pm
Yes, i would agree with that.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on May 01, 2013, 07:39:39 pm
the reason is that most of the limb is still pretty stiff, once he gets mid/outer bending right it will look good
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: wildman on May 02, 2013, 12:52:59 am
After you get it lined out you could always back it with a hickory lam,get some weight back and prolong the life.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Squirrelslayer on May 02, 2013, 04:25:30 am
and maybe add a risor? SS
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on May 02, 2013, 06:04:12 am
and maybe add a risor? SS



why?
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: wildman on May 02, 2013, 12:00:37 pm
Risor would make an awesome POP sound first time you draw it as it flew off. I was suggesting backing as a way to get the weight back up only. Very nice lil flat bow as is.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on May 02, 2013, 07:34:22 pm
Risor would make an awesome POP sound first time you draw it as it flew off. I was suggesting backing as a way to get the weight back up only. Very nice lil flat bow as is.


exactly what I was thinking wildman
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on May 08, 2013, 07:31:50 pm
well, this is it for this one. I'm stopping here and moving on to look at a new project.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Ifrit617 on May 08, 2013, 07:41:03 pm
That looks much much better! Still not perfect, but nice bend!

Jon
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: bubby on May 08, 2013, 08:29:34 pm
yeah, compare that to the old f/d, look's good
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: JeremiahVires on May 09, 2013, 11:39:04 am
Top limb isn't bending enough.But really, it would only take like 5 scrapes with a sharp knife.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: hatcha on May 09, 2013, 12:29:26 pm
Better, still needs a bunch more work in the outer limbs. My guess is that you'll be down to at least 25lbs by the time it's fixed up.

Maybe worthwhile taking an inch off each tip and putting in new nocks at this point?

Alternatively, you could go down the route of adding sinew to the back, if a higher draw weight is what you're after.
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: Onebowonder on May 10, 2013, 06:35:30 pm
Certainly a good candidate for the Most Improved Tiller award, ...if we had one.   ::)

OneBow
Title: Re: 58" red oak flat bow
Post by: mikebarg on September 12, 2016, 10:21:48 am
Well, I haven't posted here for a while. I've been working on my bows in the very little spare time I have. I pulled out this old bow and
have been shooting the heck out of it in my back yard. I'm trying to improve my form using a light draw weight bow. This one is pulling 25# @ 26".
It's held up well.