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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Slaughter on November 08, 2007, 09:08:59 pm

Title: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 08, 2007, 09:08:59 pm
Ok as I sit here running through the forum trying to learn something before I start my first project I see the plans for a sit down bench. It looks to me like a simple shaving bench like is used for shaving oak splits and shingles with a draw knife. Am I correct in this??
And with that my next question is can someone give me a list of the minimum and most basic tools I am going to need for this? Please.
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: jamie on November 08, 2007, 09:12:55 pm
 hand axe, farriers rasp or stanley shureform, light rasp, cabinet scraper or pocket knife. or my fav a big pile of broken chert ;D
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 08, 2007, 09:16:12 pm
Thanks again Jamie you seem to be johnny on the spot for me today :) what exactly is a cabinet scraper?? maybe I know it by another name Ive never heard of one.pocket knives I have plenty of.
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: jamie on November 08, 2007, 09:20:05 pm
. cabinet scraper is a flat piece of hardened steel that has an edge rolled over. once you learn to roll an edge on a cabinet scraper they are awesome. pocket knife will work just as well
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 08, 2007, 09:22:29 pm
Ok so what is its purpose in bow making?? <dumb newbie question for the day>
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: wanabehunter on November 08, 2007, 09:34:16 pm
id say spend a little cash it will save you alot of frustration and work in the long run
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Bishop on November 08, 2007, 10:22:14 pm
i am working on a red oak board bow as my first attempt and since i dont own a band saw i found a block plane to be great at removing excess wood, i have to give credit to this forum for making that suggestion. the stanley surform mentioned is great also.
good luck
Bishop
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Dane on November 08, 2007, 10:27:45 pm
Ah, Bishop, isn't that plane great?

Here is the list of my favorite hand tools:

Hatchet, Japanese style hand saws (I seem to be the only one here who likes those though), farrier's rasp, 4 in 1 wood rasp, large mill bastard file, large and small wood files, cabinet scrapers and the steel for rolling the edge, block plane, safety glasses!, and two large wood clamps for clamping the work down to my workbench. I don't own a band saw, and seem to survive fine. Also, smaller clamps of various kinds are nice to have.

I also have a draw knife I love, but only for certain jobs.
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: bjordnolf on November 08, 2007, 10:58:49 pm
I really only use a bandsaw and a drawknife (mostly as a scraper) and a chainsaw file for nocks.
thanks
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 09, 2007, 12:07:27 am
My site may help you get stared. Jawge
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Aries on November 09, 2007, 12:08:05 am
Before I got my band saw( A rigid bandsaw purchased at a garage sail in near perfect condition for 100$ :) ) My main tools for removing large amounts of wood were; a sharp draw knife, and a machete. Recently i have retired the machete and do most of my final bow shaping, and tillering with a large, square, rasp, very coarse on one side and less on the other. around my parts we usually call them horse shoein rasps :)   Ty
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 09, 2007, 12:10:07 am
That's "started".
http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/archer.html
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 09, 2007, 09:41:31 am
Thank you everyone I think that about covers it ( I hope it does)
Ill be making a trip to lowes and home depot tomorrow to pick up a few things and try to get started. My camera is kind of tempramental so I'll do the best I can about posting pics as I go along.
Thank you all again for the advice and encouragement.

Tony
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: 1/2primitive on November 09, 2007, 09:41:54 am
I have a very small, flexible bladed drawknife, and it works really well, gives me a lot of control. I use that for most of the work. And a medium sized rasp and a hachet. I will sometimes use a pocket knife for a scraper.
      Sean
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 09, 2007, 10:05:34 am
I have you pages bookmarked George and am reading them carefully........I might just be missing it but I see you say to start with a 3/4 inch thickness but I dont see a recomended Width??
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: stiknstring on November 09, 2007, 11:50:38 am
Basics for me....

Farriers Rasp
Chainsaw File
Butcher Knife for scraper

recently acquired some railroad spikes I will use to split staves
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: PepeLep on November 09, 2007, 02:29:48 pm
It seems like the tools people prefer are pretty individual.

I'm still new, but so far I have:
Drawknives
Machete
4-1 file/rasp
Scraper

I also have some chainsaw files, but they're used for other things, too.

The only tool I've used so far is a drawknife. I've used them for a lot of things for a very long time. I'm comfortable with them. I'm not finished with my bow, though. I'm sure I'll use the others.
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: cowboy on November 09, 2007, 02:47:23 pm
I do use power tools now that I've aquired them to hog off the meat initially. But I'll never part with my trusty ole drawknife to chase rings, different rasps to shape, scraper to tiller (scraper is a 7 1/4" circular saw blade) hacksawed into quarters with rolled edge.
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 09, 2007, 03:22:25 pm
Ive already got a couple of good draw knives and several rough files I will be getting a couple different rasps......Cowboy Id be interested to learn how you made your scrapers step by step.
I have lots of saw blades laying around.

Tony
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: DanaM on November 09, 2007, 07:51:58 pm
Slaughter scrapers are easy to make, old saw blades, carpenters squares any good thin metal will work.
Try this link.


http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,1237.msg12791.html#msg12791
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Dane on November 09, 2007, 09:38:53 pm
I dont think you will find a farrier's rasp at Home Depot or Lowes, and it is such a great tool, you should get one. 3 Rivers carries them, that is where I got mine. I imagine a blacksmith equipment dealer would have them, too.

Dane
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: Slaughter on November 09, 2007, 11:37:57 pm
Thanks Dane,

 My wife is a store manager at tractor supply company ;D I've got the farriers rasp covered.........
Title: Re: basic tools
Post by: cowboy on November 11, 2007, 12:17:43 am
Slaughter: That post that DanaM put up is an excellent one. The only reason I hacksawd the blade into peices was to not get it too hot and lose the temper in the steel, everything else is as Roger explains..