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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bootboy on November 13, 2007, 03:27:11 pm

Title: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 13, 2007, 03:27:11 pm
Hey guys I was just thinking, since we use pretty strange sounding parts for bow (at first). Has anyone tried to back a bow with hide glue and Hair, horse hair, human hair whatever. I wonder if that would be of any structural value? just a thought mates.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: deerhunter97370 on November 13, 2007, 04:12:35 pm
Horse hair is fairly stout so it should work if prepared right. Joel
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 13, 2007, 04:15:51 pm
yeah see that was what i was thinking !
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 13, 2007, 04:18:49 pm
I had the same thought several years ago. Somebody was supposed to send me some to try but I guess he forgot then so did I after awhile. Horse hair does have a waxy feel to it and I have heard that hide glue will not stick to it, don't know if that is true or not.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 13, 2007, 06:50:38 pm
.................Used horsehair and hide glue no problem. It makes good strings also..........bob
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 13, 2007, 09:00:01 pm
Alright then this is a challenge to any boyer interest. Call it a dare or a scientific experiement.
Lets see who can make the first hair backed bow.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: mullet on November 13, 2007, 09:08:41 pm
    Well,ummm, ::) ??? I guess I have to 'fess up.Marc,I'm the one that was supposed to send you the horse hair.I went to get it,the horse got groomed and the hair thrown away before I got there.By the time the horse got groomed again,I forgot.Man, that was about two years ago :-[
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Dane on November 13, 2007, 10:28:29 pm
Well, Mullet. Just this evening, I ordered a pound of horsehair from a horsehair dealer, naturally. This is for horsehair rope for my siege engines, but who knows what else I can do with it. About 30 bucks per pound, but you can order half pounds.

How about human hair? I found some global trading sites that you can contact Asian human hair dealers from. Not sure what to think of that yet. Macabre, maybe? Were the donors living or dead? In antiquity, the best engine ropes were supposedly made from women's hair. 
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: BigWapiti on November 14, 2007, 02:51:24 am
Oh boy, now you've done it -- my wife is going to kill me when our horses start "losing" hair now..... like it isnt enough, me going to the hills all the time coming home with more 'trees' and 'shoots', now I'll be trimming the horses....

Wanna buy some bundles???  :o  (I'M KIDDING!)
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: DanaM on November 14, 2007, 07:01:08 am
Wapiti clip a bit of the wifes hair first, after you get out of the hospital she won't mind
you clipping the horses hair >:D
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 14, 2007, 08:27:57 am
That's ok Eddie. Too many projects on the go anyway.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Pat B on November 14, 2007, 10:31:11 am
I believe Crazy Crow sells bundles of horsehair.   Pat
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 14, 2007, 11:29:05 pm
crazy crow?
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Pat B on November 15, 2007, 01:12:39 am
Add a .com to that and see what you get.  ;D   Pat
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 15, 2007, 10:32:02 pm
Oh nice they have some good stuff there.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: MattE on November 16, 2007, 09:43:56 am
 I haven't tried to glue horse hair with hide glue but being both are made up of protein, it should work!
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Dane on November 16, 2007, 06:44:18 pm
Well, guys, here is that horse hair I said I had ordered. Check it out. This is a 1 lb, 27" - 29" bundle of mixed color tail hair. I dont want to post the name of the vendor, unless it is okay with the mods, as I don't think they are advertisers. This cost me 36.00 total. Sorry about the lousy quality of the photos.

This stuff will become rope, but I think the idea is intriquing, and may try backing a bow horse hair and hide glue one day.

Dane 

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Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 17, 2007, 08:39:09 am
yup i just ordered mine yesterday.
 I hope to find the answer to this little challenge soon enough.
Next challenge, to belly a bow with a matrix of lobster husk???

Ewww imagine both together...blahh
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Dane on November 17, 2007, 08:57:11 am
Mmmmmm....do you need melted butter with that lobster bow? :)
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 17, 2007, 05:21:20 pm
mmmmmm butter
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Pat B on November 18, 2007, 12:31:49 am
That bundle of horse hair looks a lot more promising than my beard! ;D Thank goodness!
   This is a very interesting project. Looking forward to more pics and the final machine. Will it be hunting weight? ;D   Pat
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 22, 2007, 06:28:43 am
ugggh how long is this going to take for me to get my hair??
Im really anxious hehehehe.
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: Dane on November 22, 2007, 09:18:43 am
Have patience. Remember, the holiday slows everything down slightly. :)

Dane
Title: Re: Neat thought
Post by: bootboy on November 22, 2007, 07:01:24 pm
got ya. hahahaa