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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: toomanyknots on May 24, 2013, 10:51:07 am

Title: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: toomanyknots on May 24, 2013, 10:51:07 am: (http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb392/toomany7/violation.jpg) (http://s1203.photobucket.com/user/toomany7/media/violation.jpg.html)

? That is what it looks like to me? I don't know, I guess it says something about the strength of hickory to hold together? Here is the ebay auction I saw this on:

For a 120# bow, I would think any ring violation would be a death sentence for the bow. Someone seriously could hurt their self.
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: WillS on May 24, 2013, 11:01:54 am: If that was yew it would probably be fine, but it does look a tad risky. That being said, it's right in the handle, so it probably isn't under enough stress even at 120# to cause a problem.

Horrible grip though, and very un-warbow like. I prefer the look of the quilted maple used as a background ;)
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: adb on May 24, 2013, 01:35:20 pm: Who made the bow?
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: Cameroo on May 24, 2013, 02:47:21 pm: No comment on that backing, but I would have steered clear of this one. Who uses a B-50 string on a 120 LB war bow? And why wouldn't he post a full draw, or at least a braced photo?

Also one of his other bows that he's selling as an "authentic looking" yew look-alike is only 64" long. Seems a little short to be calling authentic to me...
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: adb on May 24, 2013, 02:56:02 pm: 100#@28"... 120#@31" ??? ???. 20# in 3" ??? ???. Not bloody likely. Does the seller offer a warranty? If not, I'd walk away. You can make a better bow than that... I've seen it!! IMHO, hickory is crappy belly wood.
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: toomanyknots on May 24, 2013, 04:52:56 pm: Quote from: Cameroo on May 24, 2013, 02:47:21 pm
No comment on that backing, but I would have steered clear of this one. Who uses a B-50 string on a 120 LB war bow? And why wouldn't he post a full draw, or at least a braced photo?

Also one of his other bows that he's selling as an "authentic looking" yew look-alike is only 64" long. Seems a little short to be calling authentic to me...

I'm thinking he might be like a kid or something. Or he needs to hang around here a bit more often, :). Well, I don't know. I just thought it was crazy for a 120# bow with such bad ring violations! That thing is gonna go out with a bang I bet...

EDIT: Maybe I'm just jealous, seeing as I just broke 4 bows in a row before even remotely longstring tillering... and 2 were going to be maybe around 40#s? :o.... (my hickory backings were oddly brittle and kept braking). And all those bows had perfect straight quarter sawn grain. And then this guy makes a 120# bow with a random flatsawn ring violation full backing! >:(
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: Cameroo on May 24, 2013, 05:55:24 pm: Quote from: toomanyknots on May 24, 2013, 04:52:56 pm
And then this guy makes a 120# bow with a random flatsawn ring violation full backing! >:(

That could be why there is no full draw picture :) Don't sweat it, you probably just had some bad wood.
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: DarkSoul on May 24, 2013, 06:53:30 pm: I've seen worse hickory backing on similar heavy warbows. I don't like it, but hickory is tuff as nails.
Title: Re: Question, is that a big giant ring violation on the back of this warbow?:
Post by: Hamish on May 24, 2013, 11:31:20 pm: I can't say for sure because the picture isn't clear, but it doesn't look like a big grain violation. The piece looks flatsawn, and that would be a very minor violation, that you get from lumberizing into a dimensioned backing strip, rather than a strip that is one growth ring on the back. I suspect if you could see the hickory grain on the sides of the bow it would be essentialy straight.
Hamish.