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Title: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 11, 2013, 10:19:12 am
Hello again.  I am making a hickory kids bow for a friend's daughter and I have got no idea what style or how I want it to look. Exept for it being pink :-\ do you think you guys could post some pictures of kids bows as im really struggling to think of something before this Saturday. I have a 50" long stave and im aiming for 15-20#@20" any ideas are much appreciated.  Cheers
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: blackhawk on June 11, 2013, 10:41:38 am
So is it just pure coincidence that squirellslayer just made the same statement of going to be making a kids bow for a friends daughter of hickory? And that squirellslayer and bow doc are the same person on leather wall ..."you"(squirellslayer) sent me a pm yest saying that you are not bow doc on here but you are on leather wall as well as squirellslayer...and that all of the handles were created around the same time? And that bow doc on here signed off with a thread once with an "SS" like squirellslayer does.....and is it just coincidence that the majority of bow docs posts are commenting on squirellslayers threads...and with all the "past reputation" of squirellslayers tall tales and fibs I don't believe him because its like the story of the kid who cried wolf...he's lied so many times that I don't believe anything he says even if it is the truth.....I'm calling you out in the wide open kid...its time to man up and fess up to more lies...tell the truth squirelly...

And onto the bow...do you know her draw length?..what's her age? A simple stiff handled straight bow will prob be best and work fine for your stats you listed...I'd go 1 3/8" wide out of the handle till mid limb then taper to half inch tips...
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 11, 2013, 10:57:50 am
1 inch wide, as tall as the shooter, let the handle bend, no narrowed handle, 3/8" nocks, back with burlap, linen, silk or rawhide. Jawge
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: paulsemp on June 11, 2013, 11:09:06 am
So is it just pure coincidence that squirellslayer just made the same statement of going to be making a kids bow for a friends daughter of hickory? And that squirellslayer and bow doc are the same person on leather wall ..."you"(squirellslayer) sent me a pm yest saying that you are not bow doc on here but you are on leather wall as well as squirellslayer...and that all of the handles were created around the same time? And that bow doc on here signed off with a thread once with an "SS" like squirellslayer does.....and is it just coincidence that the majority of bow docs posts are commenting on squirellslayers threads...and with all the "past reputation" of squirellslayers tall tales and fibs I don't believe him because its like the story of the kid who cried wolf...he's lied so many times that I don't believe anything he says even if it is the truth.....I'm calling you out in the wide open kid...its time to man up and fess up to more lies...tell the truth squirelly...

And onto the bow...do you know her draw length?..what's her age? A simple stiff handled straight bow will prob be best and work fine for your stats you listed...I'd go 1 3/8" wide out of the handle till mid limb then taper to half inch tips...

I was boycotting SS posts but I am grabbing some popcorn for this show!

Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: tattoo dave on June 11, 2013, 11:19:42 am
I always back kids bows with fabric. You can get fabric in almost any color or theme...if the kid is obsessed with spiderman, butterflies, or whatever, you can get a fabric with that print, or maybe just a favorite color. Kids seem to love it.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 11, 2013, 12:27:48 pm
Well.....that's just dandy Bowslayer. :(  I guess with you it's one step forward and three steps back.  I had my suspicions, but just didn't want to believe it.   As far as the bow goes,  I would go with Jawge's suggestion.  You can get all kinds of pink fabric with some pretty cool patterns at fabric stores and hobby shops for not much coin.  Josh
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 11, 2013, 12:48:57 pm
So is it just pure coincidence that squirellslayer just made the same statement of going to be making a kids bow for a friends daughter of hickory? And that squirellslayer and bow doc are the same person on leather wall ..."you"(squirellslayer) sent me a pm yest saying that you are not bow doc on here but you are on leather wall as well as squirellslayer...and that all of the handles were created around the same time? And that bow doc on here signed off with a thread once with an "SS" like squirellslayer does.....and is it just coincidence that the majority of bow docs posts are commenting on squirellslayers threads...and with all the "past reputation" of squirellslayers tall tales and fibs I don't believe him because its like the story of the kid who cried wolf...he's lied so many times that I don't believe anything he says even if it is the truth.....I'm calling you out in the wide open kid...its time to man up and fess up to more lies...tell the truth squirelly...

Ok. You got me :o yes I am slayer. Im going to use this account from now on as something happened to my SS account.

Anyway.  I have let her pull my old bow and she got it back to 18" I want to tiller it up to 20" incase her brother picks it up. I also intend to tie a length of rope around the handle and around the bows string this is so it won't be over drawn.Hope tthat mmakes sense. Im looking for some pink paint and maybe some red leather for the handle. Has anyone got any pictures of there kids bows that they made. SS


I guess with you it's one step forward and three steps back. 

I know that now.  :(
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ifrit617 on June 11, 2013, 01:09:40 pm
What!!! This is absurd! Come on man really? And you've been replying to your own posts, that's just absolute trash. Also why when you made this account did you claim to be great at restoring peoples bows? Seems like a scam to me!

Geez, this just gets better and better..  >:(

Jon
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 11, 2013, 01:13:10 pm
What!!! This is absurd! Come on man really? And you've been replying to your own posts, that's just absolute trash. Also why when you made this account did you claim to be great at restoring peoples bows? Seems like a scam to me!

Geez, this just gets better and better..  >:(

Jon

Scam? No. I was trying to make myself look better than I actually was. I had no intention of scamming anyone.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: blackhawk on June 11, 2013, 01:16:06 pm
So if your looking for help from folks like me,then why did you lie to me yesterday saying you weren't...you know I wanna help you out honestly,but that makes it really hard for me to do....I'm not gonna bash you and boo and hiss and throw tomatoes at you like some guys have...(but I will call you out)...and if you haven't figured it out a lot of guys are boycotting from helping you(for good reason)but I don't think that's the right thing to do either...I have no right to bash you as I was doing g stupider things at your age than just "lying"..so I have to give you think benefit of the doubt,and I'd rather try and help you,encourage you,and help steer you in the right direction in life so your not another "teenage causality" as I once was....some guys are just never gonna help you again after all this,and that's there perogative....but I really want to do the right thing and help teach you  so that one day you can not only pass along bowyering,but honesty and Integrity to the youth when your older...and it makes it hard on me to wanna do that when your in a web of lies....you realize if I start trying to help you out,some guys will fall in line and follow my lead,and some won't,but you'll get enough back to help you along in your journeys in life,and not just in making bows,but making the right choices in life....I'll make a statement/pact...if you can just be honest I will start giving you my "opinionated" advice...you don't have to take it,and that's fine as long as its a good reason not to and there's another decent solution to your problem.....deal?
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 11, 2013, 01:23:40 pm
All I can say is thank you for giving me a chance. No more lies. Deal
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 11, 2013, 01:30:06 pm
What Blackhawk just said should be ringing some bells of familiarity in your head.  It is pretty much the same thing that I told you last year in a PM about your Christmas tree bow story.  I hope to Hell you listen to Chris on this since you obviously didn't take what I told you serious.  None of us likes being jerks, but we aren't doing you any favors but just letting you keep on with piss poor behavior.  This is like a big family here and as such, expect to be treated like family.  This includes behavior corrections and admonishments when the occasion is necessary.  People have been defending you all along and some quite recently.  How do you suppose they're feeling right about now?  Straighten up kid, things will be a lot better for you.  Josh

I also want to add that none of us are immune from reproach.  Several of us just got set straight last week  when we were exhibiting poor behavior.  And rightfully so I might add! ;)
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: osage outlaw on June 11, 2013, 01:56:31 pm
All I can say is thank you for giving me a chance. No more lies. Deal

Haven't you said this before.   It's impossible for you to be honest
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: blackhawk on June 11, 2013, 01:57:23 pm
Well..you took the first right step in admitting it...but that's the easy part....words are easy to say,but can be hard to follow in action in the future,and to make an honest behavioural correction ( speaking from lots of experience) ..and its going to take a lot of "real" proof to gain some trust back,and to see if your really sorry or not,as I see you really weren't sorry before with your apologies...

The lesson I'm trying to teach you now has nothing to do with bowyering...its a word called GRACE..and its something my elders taught me many moons ago,and its still an ongoing lifelong battle to continue to show grace and forgiveness to those who continue to spit on you,but i believe its the right thing to do because throwing rotten tomatoes isn't gonna help you turn into an honest man with integrity....look up the definition of grace,honesty,and integrity and memorize them,and repeat them over and over in your lil squirelly brain...let it sink in and meditate on them...

Please guys refrain from throwing any more rotten tomatoes..its not gonna help...but please help to encourage him in a positive way...
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on June 11, 2013, 02:25:26 pm
go see the movie "Epic".
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2013, 03:17:49 pm
  "...I was trying to make myself look better than I actually was..."
Be yourself! If you have to try to be better than you actually are I'd say that PA is not the place for you. There are lots of good folks here that want to help anyone, ANYONE that wants to learn. Your skill level makes no difference. All we ask is that you try...and that you be respectful...and honest.
  I have not replied to any of your posts. I saw the light early on and don't have time for your nonsince. If you can get serious about PA then PA will get serious about you. If not, you're out of here. This is nt a threat. It is, however a promise. Its up to you!!!

  Pat


ps. please send me a PM with any other user names you might have so I can delete them.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Carson (CMB) on June 11, 2013, 03:21:07 pm
Wow!  Are you also squirrelslinger?  Honest answer please.

As for kids bows, in addition to what has been said already, I like to include an arrow shelf and a nock point, both a bit oversized.  This helps youngsters get and arrow nocked and keep it nocked.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: bubby on June 11, 2013, 03:22:37 pm
I agree with you Blackhawk, but he's gonna have to earn his way back, my dad always told me the last perfect man was crucified so we all have faults, but trust is earned, not given, bub
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: ionicmuffin on June 11, 2013, 03:58:05 pm
trust can only be earned by allowing opportunities for it, I agree that the only way out of the 10 mile pit you've dug yourself is to take all help and advice and be humble and gracious of all help you receive, things WILL get better if you truly desire to better yourself and take action to improve your behavior. From now on I would ask that you at least think about how each and every post effects others, and what your post will do to keep yourself honest and humble. The key here is humble, if you are exactly who you are, you're being honest. If you're lying then your not being honest and you're not yourself... lying is not a part of humans that is natural. I hope you will take everything to heart that I've said, as well as Chris, He has been VERY kind by not ranting and chewing you out, he's given you advice, take it.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 11, 2013, 04:29:26 pm
Wow!  Are you also squirrelslinger?  Honest answer please.
.

I thought someone might bring that up.  No im not squirrelslinger.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 11, 2013, 05:35:29 pm
Scam? No. I was trying to make myself look better than I actually was. I had no intention of scamming anyone.
Squirrel, that is a scam, my friend.
BTW, for a kids bow-
overbuild it-(young) kids are very rough on bows... learned that myself...
Make it from a hard, strong, durable wood- locust, osage, hickory, etc.
Bendy handle.
Not super wide limbs, but wide enough- for a locust shortie, maybe 1 1/2.
make it pretty  but simple.
Make some nice arrows to go with it.
20"draw is usually more than enough... for a young kid.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Roy on June 11, 2013, 05:47:07 pm
Kids bow, 48 inch tip to tip, 14# @ 15 inches, little deflex/reflex. Osage backed with Hickory. I made this bow for the Saint Jude's auction.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 11, 2013, 06:13:51 pm
Wow!  Are you also squirrelslinger?  Honest answer please.

As for kids bows, in addition to what has been said already, I like to include an arrow shelf and a nock point, both a bit oversized.  This helps youngsters get and arrow nocked and keep it nocked.
Nope, but squirrelslayer offered to trade me some sinew for my red oak longbow.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: John D on June 11, 2013, 06:42:16 pm
I posted this a little while ago:  http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,33629.msg443533.html#msg443533
22 lbs at 22"  and there's pics of a couple more.

I've done some more since then and I'll try to get some pics up tonight.  All are board bows up to this point; hickory and maple have worked out well for me (Boise is desert; so hickory loves it here)

Also, lots of folks chipped in on a similar post: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,37738.msg499781.html#msg499781

I heartily agree on the arrow shelf and backing comments.  Keep the kiddos safe. 

Hope it goes well for you. 

John D.

Boise
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: soy on June 11, 2013, 10:06:00 pm
Wow!  Are you also squirrelslinger?  Honest answer please.



Or are you perhaps blackhawk?????? >:D  >:D  >:D  >:D
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 11, 2013, 10:17:31 pm
Lol!  Or are you Soy!? ???  Oh Hell!  Am I me? :o. I'm so confused! >:D. Lol!  Josh
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: soy on June 11, 2013, 10:20:26 pm
who's on first and where Am I ;D
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Roy on June 11, 2013, 10:24:56 pm
The SS saga will never end, we've been through these same threads how many times now? Yet he continues to deal out his crap and play his little games. I say he straightens out or get's banned!
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: dmc on June 11, 2013, 11:23:47 pm
So is it just pure coincidence that squirellslayer just made the same statement of going to be making a kids bow for a friends daughter of hickory? And that squirellslayer and bow doc are the same person on leather wall ..."you"(squirellslayer) sent me a pm yest saying that you are not bow doc on here but you are on leather wall as well as squirellslayer...and that all of the handles were created around the same time? And that bow doc on here signed off with a thread once with an "SS" like squirellslayer does.....and is it just coincidence that the majority of bow docs posts are commenting on squirellslayers threads...and with all the "past reputation" of squirellslayers tall tales and fibs I don't believe him because its like the story of the kid who cried wolf...he's lied so many times that I don't believe anything he says even if it is the truth.....I'm calling you out in the wide open kid...its time to man up and fess up to more lies...tell the truth squirelly...

And onto the bow...do you know her draw length?..what's her age? A simple stiff handled straight bow will prob be best and work fine for your stats you listed...I'd go 1 3/8" wide out of the handle till mid limb then taper to half inch tips...

I was boycotting SS posts but I am grabbing some popcorn for this show!

Holy poop, I didn't see that one coming! This thread could be moved to "Opening can of Worms" section.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 11, 2013, 11:55:02 pm
Do something.  Make something.  Finish something.  Accomplish something.  Sweat it out.  Sacrifice.  Bleed a little.  Give it away.  Then help another.  You may trick others into liking you for a while by faking all of these things, but character is not in what others think of what you do, but in what you think of what you do.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: osage outlaw on June 11, 2013, 11:58:42 pm
I'll give you some advice on a kids bow.  Let someone else make it.  If your bows are prone to breaking, don't put them in the hands of kids.  You could seriously hurt them or make them afraid of shooting a bow. 
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 12, 2013, 04:28:07 am
I'll give you some advice on a kids bow.  Let someone else make it.  If your bows are prone to breaking, don't put them in the hands of kids.  You could seriously hurt them or make them afraid of shooting a bow.

Ok maybe not wood but how about a little PVC bow I can make them and there durable and can be taken to extraordinary draw lengths.  Ive made a PVC longbow before. Would this be a better idea?
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: dwardo on June 12, 2013, 05:47:52 am
I found out that making kids bows takes some prior thought if you are used to only making adult bows.
I found it hard enough to make a 30lb bow let alone something around the 20 mark. My biggest mistake was laying out a bow far too heavy in the first place rather than something with dimensions to suit the end product.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 12, 2013, 10:47:11 am
Bowslayer, I have a suggestion for you for a kids bow- WAAYYYYYYY overbuild it AND back it with linen, rawhide, or other cloth. That way it will hold together until it is strained insanely overmuch.
Anyway... bowslayer, I am not happy you ruined the rep of anyone with "squirrel" in their name.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ed Brooks on June 12, 2013, 11:05:27 am
What Blackhawk just said should be ringing some bells of familiarity in your head.  It is pretty much the same thing that I told you last year in a PM about your Christmas tree bow story.  I hope to Hell you listen to Chris on this since you obviously didn't take what I told you serious.  None of us likes being jerks, but we aren't doing you any favors but just letting you keep on with piss poor behavior.  This is like a big family here and as such, expect to be treated like family.  This includes behavior corrections and admonishments when the occasion is necessary.  People have been defending you all along and some quite recently.  How do you suppose they're feeling right about now?  Straighten up kid, things will be a lot better for you.  Josh

I also want to add that none of us are immune from reproach.  Several of us just got set straight last week  when we were exhibiting poor behavior.  And rightfully so I might add! ;)
As for me I feel quite Stupid right now! Ed
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 12, 2013, 11:56:20 am
So what do you think about the idea of a PVC bow. Thanks
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 12, 2013, 12:09:34 pm

Anyway... bowslayer, I am not happy you ruined the rep of anyone with "squirrel" in their name.

Any damage to your rep was done by you Slinger.  After the posting of a pic of juniper while talking smack about how dumb slayer was for not properly I'ding yew, I would think that you would have learned not to run your mouth when he screws up!

Ed- no reason too.  Your heart was in the right place.  Nothing wrong with that.  Josh
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ed Brooks on June 12, 2013, 01:20:17 pm
Thanks Gun Doc, I will stick to nothing but bows / arrows and the likes from now on.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 12, 2013, 01:23:11 pm
Ed you will have a "list" soon enough. We all learn who is who and go from there.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: AH on June 12, 2013, 02:35:52 pm
So what do you think about the idea of a PVC bow. Thanks
I say go for it. They're easy to make and hard to break, I made tons of them before I got my first board bow made.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 12, 2013, 02:57:29 pm

Anyway... bowslayer, I am not happy you ruined the rep of anyone with "squirrel" in their name.

Any damage to your rep was done by you Slinger.  After the posting of a pic of juniper while talking smack about how dumb slayer was for not properly I'ding yew, I would think that you would have learned not to run your suck when he screws up!

Ed- no reason too.  Your heart was in the right place.  Nothing wrong with that.  Josh
I said it was a picture of a CONIFER, NOT YEW. I POSTED IT TO SHOW THE NEEDLES.
Anyway, all I did was google "yew+bark+needles+conifer" and picked an image that illustrated needles and fiberous bark well. I didn't check to see that it was yew.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Roy on June 12, 2013, 03:23:13 pm
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Yupper it is:)
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 12, 2013, 04:11:12 pm



I said it was a picture of a CONIFER, NOT YEW. I POSTED IT TO SHOW THE NEEDLES.
Anyway, all I did was google "yew+bark+needles+conifer" and picked an image that illustrated needles and fiberous bark well. I didn't check to see that it was yew.

It's your story, go ahead and tell it how you want. ::)  josh
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: autologus on June 12, 2013, 04:16:27 pm
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Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: keef on June 12, 2013, 04:17:56 pm
I Come on here as a novice to learn from the more experienced bowmakers. I usually visit  every couple of days and have a good read through as I enjoy 99% of the posts..They are almost always informative, and inspire me to give thoughts to design , future projects etc...

 I've contributed in the past, but have not for a while due to issues beyond my control that will resolve themselves soon .

 This business With false identities and the squirrel twins or whatever seems to drag on, and  is a train wreck in my opinion.

It would be as well for the admin to deal with this now, as although it may be a little light entertainment for  the good members ( I chuckled myself at the start) It could start to take over and spoil things....I know that sounds a bit alarmist, but new posts seem to be popping up all the time

If you think I'm full of hot air then I'm sorry, But I like this place and have learned a lot from it..I've also seen other forums tumble and Go to the dogs..

All the best

Keith
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ifrit617 on June 12, 2013, 04:22:38 pm
I Come on here as a novice to learn from the more experienced bowmakers. I usually visit  every couple of days and have a good read through as I enjoy 99% of the posts..They are almost always informative, and inspire me to give thoughts to design , future projects etc...

 I've contributed in the past, but have not for a while due to issues beyond my control that will resolve themselves soon .

 This business With false identities and the squirrel twins or whatever seems to drag on, and  is a train wreck in my opinion.

It would be as well for the admin to deal with this now, as although it may be a little light entertainment for  the good members ( I chuckled myself at the start) It could start to take over and spoil things....I know that sounds a bit alarmist, but new posts seem to be popping up all the time

If you think I'm full of hot air then I'm sorry, But I like this place and have learned a lot from it..I've also seen other forums tumble and Go to the dogs..

All the best

Keith

+1 I thought it would get better, but its just getting worse and worse.

Jon
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Roy on June 12, 2013, 04:27:19 pm
Stick around, Keith. It's cheap entertainment:) Not too many threads head south on here. But some of us are tired of the B.S. of a couple poster boys:)
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: bubby on June 12, 2013, 04:46:39 pm
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Millions of Squirrels have had their reputations damaged by this grave injustice, because of this tragedy thousands of squirrels don't know where their next meal will come from and many have turned to drinking to cope with the embarrassment.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/autologus/beeringsquirrel_zpsf5cfe449.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/autologus/media/beeringsquirrel_zpsf5cfe449.jpg.html)

For about a dollar a day you can give these squirrels a chance to escape the hunger and shame that have been created by this unfortunate web of lies.

Won't you sponsor a squirrel today and help bring these majestic creatures back to the glory they once enjoyed before this tragic incident?
NOPE!!  >:D
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Roy on June 12, 2013, 05:17:38 pm
Ok Bubby, get your butt over here and clean the coffee off my keyboard.. LMAO
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 12, 2013, 05:31:57 pm
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(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/autologus/squirrel_zpsa32e03bf.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/autologus/media/squirrel_zpsa32e03bf.jpg.html)

Millions of Squirrels have had their reputations damaged by this grave injustice, because of this tragedy thousands of squirrels don't know where their next meal will come from and many have turned to drinking to cope with the embarrassment.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/autologus/beeringsquirrel_zpsf5cfe449.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/autologus/media/beeringsquirrel_zpsf5cfe449.jpg.html)

For about a dollar a day you can give these squirrels a chance to escape the hunger and shame that have been created by this unfortunate web of lies.

Won't you sponsor a squirrel today and help bring these majestic creatures back to the glory they once enjoyed before this tragic incident?

Where can I send the money?

This made me laugh.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ifrit617 on June 12, 2013, 06:47:55 pm
Bowslayer, have you ever wondered if its worth it to go through all this **** every time you post something?
It seems to me that by now you would have figured out that doing stupid things will bite you back.

You should not make comments like this. You are just as responsible for this as he is.

Jon
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on June 12, 2013, 07:18:45 pm
It just happens to strike me that some people on here enjoy hijacking threads, downtalking others, and bringing up problems.
This thread started out as a "I am asking a honest question" thread, and wound up as ANOTHER "them squirrels are ******" thread.
As far as I am concerned, take what people say at face value.
Teenagers are rather impulsive(I am one, and trust me, I know i do stupid things). 
It makes me wonder sometimes if some people have ego problems.
I know I can barely make a working bow.  But I can make a bow, and therefore I consider myself a bowyer- Note the definition of "bowyer"
I know I am inexperianced. In 10 years I will probably regret almost every post I have done on PA. Perhaps it is more trouble than it is worth. I have only been here for a few months. Every time 'slayer starts a thread, he gets jumped on. Doesn't matter what its about.
Always by the SAME PEOPLE.
 I chose "squirrelslinger" as a username cause I like the name(and have an awesome avatar to go with it).
I now regret that quite a bit.
When I started making (and breaking) wooden bows, I thought pear was osage and pine was yew. I didn't know the difference between locust and elm. I didn't even know what tree rings are, except that by counting them you can tell how old the tree is.  Now, I can identify most common white woods on sight. I can chase a ring on a locust shortie with a pocketknife(and I have done that). But when it comes to PA, I take everything on the internet at face value. Meaning I don't judge by prior posts, good or bad. I simply pay attention to the info, and if it checks out with at least 2 other sources, I try it and if it works, I believe it. 
Thank you to those who read 'slayer's posts and take it at face value. Thank you to those willing to forgive him if he wants to change, and willing to share knowledge with him. Thank you to those who have given me advice. Thank you to those who have forgiven me for my shaky start here. I am probably not much better (and likely worse to some) than 'slayer to many of you. I do not pretend to know what he did wrong, and I may have repeated his mistakes. To me, it seems that people were happy to jump on him for POSTING a bow HE MADE(even if he did have help). I don't want to waste more time on this kind of stuff. Lets get over this crap.
If I have offended some people with this, sorry to you. But I am not going to let others tell me how to live my life.
Live your life how you want. If other people don't agree, so be it.

ALL people who make wooden bows MUST be insane according to my quote-signature.
We try, try, and repeat ourselves over and over again... and get different results.

-Squirrel
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: soy on June 12, 2013, 07:29:49 pm
Stick around, Keith. It's cheap entertainment:) Not too many threads head south on here. But some of us are tired of the B.S. of a couple poster boys:)


for the most part I agree however this one is getting dreadfully close :-[
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 12, 2013, 08:54:39 pm
Thanks slinger I do agree with the majority of what you said and feel.  I am tired of all my threads being hijacked even when im asking a simple question.  And I will definitely agree with the tenagers are impulsive. I have also learnt alot  on this forum like when I joined I was making a bow from a Christmas tree.  And was not able to tiller bows correctly but now I can IMO make a well tillered bow from a wood most bowyers would stay clear of.  Ive also learnt about different woods and backings and I even learnt how to knapp flint and other stone. I have also learnt how to use resources more efficiently and about the problems that faced our primitive ancestors faced.

Thanks for speaking what was on my mind. And thank you blackhawk for the opportunity you offered me in guiding me to be a better person.  I hope from now on people will listen and actually take us more seriously with our posts. I know that's hard for some people as I have upset alot of people with my lies and pursuits. I hope that one day I can gain back some respect and credibility.  I know it will take a long time and I know I can probably never re-build bridges that have been burned down but I feel that if I follow the right path I can be a better person on this forum and in life, on and off line. Im not expecting to be forgiven over night but hope that all this hijacking will stop. Thanks.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: osage outlaw on June 12, 2013, 09:17:10 pm
Your posts usually turn into messes like this because of your actions in the past and present.  You have fake user names to try to make yourself look better than you actually are and then you don't like it when people don't take you serious?  You have brought this upon yourself.  Its not because you are young or you are a beginner.  There are other young members and beginners who don't get treated like you do.  If you want to be treated with respect you have to earn it.  So far you have done the exact opposite of that.  Please quit wasting everyones time with your nonsense.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: BowSlayer on June 12, 2013, 09:29:25 pm
Yes I know I have made mistakes and bad choices to say the least.  I want to earn respect and I know that will take time, patients and respect for other members.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: blackhawk on June 12, 2013, 09:54:38 pm
So how's that kids bow coming? N why not just use a properly grain chosen piece of hickory or whatever board,and overbuild it cus kids could care less about performance..they just like to see the arrow flight...and just go slow and take your time
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Josh B on June 12, 2013, 10:37:04 pm
Really?  After all the foolishness and shenanigans...you two boys are gonna play the part of unfairly persecuted victims ?!?!   There are whole bunch folks older than you that have that same line of thinking.  They're called inmates.  This is the last time I'm gonna say it, take responsibility for your actions and fix your attitude!  I'm done with ya!  Josh
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: DLH on June 12, 2013, 10:58:44 pm
I really think if you guys had posted pictures of current builds that you need help with it would have helped you tremendously and listened to their advice. Its hard for them to believe you or help you if they don't have a picture to go from. I am a pure beginner in the same boat as you guys are. Chris (blackhawk) has helped me to know end and always answers my questions in my current thread I have going and various PMs I have sent him and the same goes for Clint (osageoutlaw) as well. The thread where Pearl Drums helped someone (sorry can't remember who) completely tiller out a red oak bow is another fine example if you try and put in your part they will more than gladly help you. I have personally met Chris and Clint in person and they more than gladly answered all my questions no matter how simple or stupid. I don't post very much because I don't feel like I have enough experience to give any advice yet.
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: JW_Halverson on June 12, 2013, 11:02:53 pm
Like several others, I, too, am done.

Pat B, good luck ferreting out all his phoney monikers.  Maybe a good way to start is by giving him a 60 day time-out to consider his future coarse of action.  Might allow the rest of us the chance to cool off.  I know I for one would like that chance!
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Ozzy on June 12, 2013, 11:09:01 pm
I really think if you guys had posted pictures of current builds that you need help with it would have helped you tremendously and listened to their advice. Its hard for them to believe you or help you if they don't have a picture to go from. I am a pure beginner in the same boat as you guys are. Chris (blackhawk) has helped me to know end and always answers my questions in my current thread I have going and various PMs I have sent him and the same goes for Clint (osageoutlaw) as well. The thread where Pearl Drums helped someone (sorry can't remember who) completely tiller out a red oak bow is another fine example if you try and put in your part they will more than gladly help you. I have personally met Chris and Clint in person and they more than gladly answered all my questions no matter how simple or stupid. I don't post very much because I don't feel like I have enough experience to give any advice yet

+1 all on this site have always help me
Title: Re: need inspiration for a kids bow.
Post by: Pat B on June 13, 2013, 12:08:32 am
I'm gonna lock this thread down before it goes too far.

  Pat