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Main Discussion Area => Archived Hunting Pics => Shooting and Hunting => 2013 Hunting Pictures => Topic started by: Ed Brooks on June 24, 2013, 05:41:00 pm

Title: 1st bow kill. Proud Dad.
Post by: Ed Brooks on June 24, 2013, 05:41:00 pm
My Son beat me to the 1st kill with a bow. He said he missed with 2 flu flu's and hit on the 3rd attempt and finished it off with a point, he ended up loosing all of his flu flu's, ill be making more tonight as I lost 2 yesterday.
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Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on June 24, 2013, 05:42:12 pm
Excellent!  starlings can make for great practice.
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Post by: PrimitiveTim on June 24, 2013, 06:10:02 pm
Kill the invasives! lol
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Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on June 24, 2013, 06:18:45 pm
Kill the invasives! lol
Precisely, Bob.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on June 24, 2013, 10:57:34 pm
Kill the invasives AND collect great hackles for fly tying!
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Post by: Bryce on June 25, 2013, 03:47:30 pm
Kill the invasives AND collect great hackles for fly tying!
Exactly

Looks like a good shot :)
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Post by: JessaHein on June 25, 2013, 04:35:54 pm
Well done!  ;D
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Post by: PeteC on June 27, 2013, 11:06:35 pm
Great shot. I hate Starlings,they run off my Purple Martins. I'm with you ,I pop em every chance I get. God Bless
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Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on July 01, 2013, 06:36:00 pm
Is it legal to hunt starlings without any sort of license?
If it is legal, is it legal to use a potato gun?
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Post by: Ed Brooks on July 01, 2013, 06:42:05 pm
Is it legal to hunt starlings without any sort of license?
If it is legal, is it legal to use a potato gun?
Squirrel, for hunting any thing you should check with your states laws, as for potato gun I have heard they treat them like a sawed off shoot gun. However I am no expert, I do  strongly suggest talking to an official in your state before taking the word of anyone on any web site. It is you that butt that will be in trouble if it isn't legal. Have fun and happy hunting. Ed
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Post by: keef on July 02, 2013, 12:06:16 pm
 It would be idiotic and mindless to shoot a potato gun at anything living....
Starlings are native to Europe and here in the UK they used to be so common... You'd see vast clouds of them at winter roost sites like smoke in the sky. They are now in massive decline and there are only a few small Flocks in my area.
They were also extremely useful for ridding the soil of wire worms and leatherjackets etc and were valued by a lot of farmers.
But alas, you have loads of them in the states and they are regarded as a pest and rightly so..Non natives are bad news all round. We have your Grey Squirrel and it is just about the biggest threat to native woodlands here..Strips bark and destroys our native trees wholesale!

One thing worth remembering here is ALWAYS hunt and kill humanely no matter how low a regard you have for the species. They arent evil, they are just an animal introduced by man. they have no right to suffer any more than native species ( so lay off with potato guns etc eh!) Not a lecture here just my point of view.

By the way and back to the point... great shot with the arrow there and keep it up...bit by bit you'll get rid of a few..
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Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on July 02, 2013, 04:44:10 pm
It would be idiotic and mindless to shoot a potato gun at anything living....
Me and a friend did penetration tests with a potato gun loaded with 1/2 potato. It was surprising. A potatoe gun is probably one of the most deadly weapons to a bird. Haven't tested that though.
I was actually joking about the potato gun....
Anyway, if you put a 1" plug into a potato gun with a 1 1/2 bore, then put 1/2 inch layer of 4mm BBs.. it will demolish almost anything.
It is cruel to shoot something, and let it take a long time to die.
BTW I don't hunt. I thought you had to have a license to hunt anything.
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Post by: Marks on July 02, 2013, 05:36:55 pm
It would be idiotic and mindless to shoot a potato gun at anything living....
Starlings are native to Europe and here in the UK they used to be so common... You'd see vast clouds of them at winter roost sites like smoke in the sky. They are now in massive decline and there are only a few small Flocks in my area.
They were also extremely useful for ridding the soil of wire worms and leatherjackets etc and were valued by a lot of farmers.
But alas, you have loads of them in the states and they are regarded as a pest and rightly so..Non natives are bad news all round. We have your Grey Squirrel and it is just about the biggest threat to native woodlands here..Strips bark and destroys our native trees wholesale!

One thing worth remembering here is ALWAYS hunt and kill humanely no matter how low a regard you have for the species. They arent evil, they are just an animal introduced by man. they have no right to suffer any more than native species ( so lay off with potato guns etc eh!) Not a lecture here just my point of view.

By the way and back to the point... great shot with the arrow there and keep it up...bit by bit you'll get rid of a few..

I wouldn't think it would be any more idiotic that shooting a blunt tipped small game arrow at a squirrel or rabbit. I would imagine it would make a clean kill. A few years ago I put a crossbow bolt on top of an apple in the potato gun and it shot pretty darn well. I wouldn't hunt big game with a tater gun but I think it would be fun to terrorize yard squirrels with.
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Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on July 03, 2013, 12:30:01 am
It would be idiotic and mindless to shoot a potato gun at anything living....
Starlings are native to Europe and here in the UK they used to be so common... You'd see vast clouds of them at winter roost sites like smoke in the sky. They are now in massive decline and there are only a few small Flocks in my area.
They were also extremely useful for ridding the soil of wire worms and leatherjackets etc and were valued by a lot of farmers.
But alas, you have loads of them in the states and they are regarded as a pest and rightly so..Non natives are bad news all round. We have your Grey Squirrel and it is just about the biggest threat to native woodlands here..Strips bark and destroys our native trees wholesale!

One thing worth remembering here is ALWAYS hunt and kill humanely no matter how low a regard you have for the species. They arent evil, they are just an animal introduced by man. they have no right to suffer any more than native species ( so lay off with potato guns etc eh!) Not a lecture here just my point of view.

By the way and back to the point... great shot with the arrow there and keep it up...bit by bit you'll get rid of a few..

I wouldn't think it would be any more idiotic that shooting a blunt tipped small game arrow at a squirrel or rabbit. I would imagine it would make a clean kill. A few years ago I put a crossbow bolt on top of an apple in the potato gun and it shot pretty darn well. I wouldn't hunt big game with a tater gun but I think it would be fun to terrorize yard squirrels with.
I bet it would certianly kill them. If a projectile equel or greater to the game animal's weight, of reasonable density, moving over 70 FPS, hits a solid hit(body, head, etc. Not legs, nose, tail, etc) on it, I think it would kill it very fast. For animals of any size. EX- hit a deer in the main body area with a 100 pound lead cannonball moving pretty fast(say 80 FPS) and you will most likely kill it near-instantly. Hit it with a 100 pound stone in the same spot, it will probably die instantly or near instantly. Hit a human with a 50 pound projectile in the main body (middle-upper chest) and they will likely be dead instantly.
I don't actually know that the above methods will work, but I think its pretty obvious. and-
Early humans could kill a small game animal(rabbit, squirrel, bird) with a 4-6 oz rock throwing it by hand, near 80 FPS or so. Clean, effective kills.
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Post by: 4dog on September 04, 2013, 01:04:42 am
You can easily kill a rabbit or squirrel with a blunt tip, and depending on your gear, the arrow will likely pass through as well.
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Post by: stickbender on September 07, 2013, 12:21:57 am

     When I was in the Army, in the 60's, was stationed in Italy, and down by the mess hall, there was a row of huge chestnut trees, by the sidewalk.  Well after 5 pm, no one parked there.  But someone did not know why there was no one parked, and thought boy, I have all the spaces to myself! 8)  And the thousands of starlings that used those trees for roosting, thought, Boy, we have that car all to ourselves.  Well the next morning the car was still there.  I guess whoever it belonged to, thought they would just leave it there for the night, and get it in the morning, and go off to wherever they were going.  Well you could tell it was a car, by being able to see the wheels.  other than that it was completely covered in about two to three inches of starling poop! :o  There was not a spot on the car that was not covered! :P  even the antennae!!  :o  We got quite a laugh out of that.  But we sure pitied the poor person who had to clean that car! :o :P  I bet he doesn't have any love for them either! ;)

                                                                              Wayne
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Post by: koan on September 07, 2013, 12:47:57 am
Nice shot on that bird.... Squirrelly.... You just cost me 5 min of life I can never get back ::).... You really need to get a girlfriend... jes sayin....
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Post by: sleek on September 07, 2013, 05:48:20 am
Eh, he's a kid Koan, leave him be. I kinda like him really.

Ok, I have researched starlings about a year back. No liscence needed ( verify for yourself ) in any state. Discovering this ( and tired of feeding them and not my dogs ) I shot a few. Then seeing these dead birds on the ground, I cut the little nugget sized breast out, salted em, tossed em into the fryin pan with a bit of olive oil. Taste like duck. And I will probably eat them again.
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Post by: koan on September 07, 2013, 11:51:20 am
Your right Sleek... They can go thru a bowl of dog food faster than a full grown Lab.. Lol