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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 07:02:36 pm

Title: Osage, Sinew, Rawhide painted bow. (unstrung pic added)
Post by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 07:02:36 pm
This bow was made from a propeller twisted piece of well seasoned bodark, It has two layers of elk leg sinew applied with homemade hide glue, then covered with elk rawhide. The bow's paint was inspired by Laubin"s "Osage Turk".

The bow is a Lil over 50 pounds at 27" and chroned 162 fps consistently with a 514 grain cedar arrow. No shame in that! Bow is only 52.5" long.
Enjoy the pics.

Eric
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 07:03:18 pm
more
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 07:03:57 pm
few more
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Post by: Joec123able on June 26, 2013, 07:13:23 pm
Wow!! This goes in my list of top 10 most beautiful bows I've ever seen. You did a heck of a job on it
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 07:19:17 pm
last one.
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Post by: Ozzy on June 26, 2013, 07:53:16 pm
Very nice bow
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Post by: osage outlaw on June 26, 2013, 08:19:02 pm
That's a nice bow right there.
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on June 26, 2013, 09:30:02 pm
Wow, that is a lot of bend.  Looks fast.  I like that paint job too.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on June 26, 2013, 09:52:20 pm
Fine looking bow.
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Post by: steve b. on June 26, 2013, 10:05:43 pm
 Yikes, a real beauty.  I'm thinking, from some of your other posts, that you are the go-to guy for tips on how to sinew...?
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Post by: Fred Arnold on June 26, 2013, 10:12:32 pm
Nice work on a great looking bow. You are giving me some motivation to get busy.
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 26, 2013, 10:24:28 pm
Thanks for the compliments as for sinew backing the bow is only 52"with a non bending handle that's 5" so I only have 47 inches of working limb, This bow will draw 28" as the arrow in the picture is 28" to the back of the field point. With 47" of working limb a rough draw length should be half of the working limbs length which would be  23.5" the sinew allows for some great overdraw of 4.5 more inches. I feel the bow would give more but my draw is only 27".
The trick to sinew backing is plenty of sinew and hide glue...not tight bond as many seem to use now days.

Eric
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Post by: Badly Bent on June 26, 2013, 10:24:44 pm
Thats a bender there, good looker too and those performance stats make that one nice bow for sure. I like !
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Post by: steve b. on June 26, 2013, 11:15:40 pm
Eric,

A.  How did you deal with the propeller twist?

B.  Where can I find any info that you have posted about backing a bow or can I ask my 3-400 questions right here?  :)
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Post by: TRACY on June 26, 2013, 11:23:13 pm
Got the most out of that one! Nice work.


Tracy
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Post by: BowEd on June 26, 2013, 11:43:30 pm
Very nice short from scratch made bow.Stiff handled to boot.Like the paint job.Perfect turkey blind bow.Tell us a little more about the Osage Turk.Got a resting sideview shot of the bow?Your right no shame on that one.
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 27, 2013, 01:22:21 am
Beadman, I just realized your right no picture of the bow unstrung..how dare me forget that  :laugh: I will post one tomorrow.
As for the "Osage Turk" it was a bow that Reginald Laubin made form Osage and sinew backed it and painted it in the fashion of the Turkish style bows. The bow is pictured in his book and has always been a favorite of mine. I designed mine with less reflex, I think he cut his bow in half at the handle and put some set back in it that way, Im not very keen on cutting a perfectly good bow in half to induce reflex.  :o Thats something he often did which is a little confusing to me as an experienced bowyer knows how to put reflex in a bow without sawing it in half.
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Post by: JonW on June 27, 2013, 02:03:26 am
Very nice! I love Osage and sinew.
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Post by: H Rhodes on June 27, 2013, 02:08:26 am
You got all that bend out of that one!  Really nice bow. 
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Post by: Pappy on June 27, 2013, 08:41:27 am
Lots of bend it that baby. :) Finish work is excellent.  :)
   Pappy
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Post by: lesken2011 on June 27, 2013, 09:28:02 am
You squeezed a lot of draw from that shorty. Sweet!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 27, 2013, 09:56:52 am
How did you seal the sinew and skins?
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Post by: wildkatt on June 27, 2013, 10:58:27 am
 8) Nice Bow Bro. as always >:D  Like the paint.


Katt
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Post by: RBLusthaus on June 27, 2013, 12:26:48 pm
awesome paint job.
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 27, 2013, 06:09:48 pm
Here is the unstrung profile as requested.
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 27, 2013, 06:59:44 pm
Pearl The bow has a clear coating on it of hide glue to seal the paint, the belly is all natural with only lemon oil applied to it.

Eric
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Post by: bushboy on June 27, 2013, 07:37:13 pm
Very cool,I like it!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 28, 2013, 06:17:33 am
Pearl The bow has a clear coating on it of hide glue to seal the paint, the belly is all natural with only lemon oil applied to it.

Eric

How does a water soluable hide glue seal the skins and sinew?
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Post by: DirtyDan on June 28, 2013, 10:10:39 am
Excellent job in all aspects
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Post by: Christian Soldier on June 28, 2013, 11:31:08 am
Beautifull bow and it can spit out an arrow pretty fast for that length. Good job man!
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Post by: BowEd on June 28, 2013, 11:38:48 am
There she is.Nice lines on that shorty.
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Post by: IndianGuy on June 28, 2013, 06:16:31 pm
Pearl Drums... As for your questions it is obvious you have not worked much with sinew , rawhide, or hide glue. As many people believe a sinew backed bow can not be used in a wet condition, this is true to an extent, it can not be used in a constant wet condition, constant being the key word. Now sinew backing can not be "sealed" by itself. You can add rawhide or snakeskin or even canvas like some of the old Sioux bows had to cover the sinew and help seal out the moisture, which works to some extent. Sometimes clay was mixed with the hide glue to do this also. Hide glue can withstand alot of moisture before becoming damaged, you actually would have to soak a good sinew backed bow in water for a few days for the hide glue to give way enough to remove the sinew.
The rawhide on this bow does protect the sinew but was only added to give me a smooth surface to paint on, Now the paint being a modern acrylic will seal the rawhide as the paint is water proof. As for the water soluable hide glue it is there to put a layer over the paint to avoid the paint being scratched from an occasional scrape up against a tree or some other real world situation that we have all had while hunting or shooting.
If that does not answer your question fully feel free to p.m. me an we can discuss further the amazing properties of sinew, rawhide and water soluable hide glue.

Eric
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Post by: PaulN/KS on July 02, 2013, 08:55:07 am
That's another amazing bow Sir ! You sure do get most, and best, out of all your materials.
BTW, are you in Oklahoma or Missouri ? ( The "Bodark" was a clue..)  ;)
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Post by: BowSlayer on July 02, 2013, 09:13:17 am
very nice :)
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Post by: IndianGuy on July 02, 2013, 12:19:07 pm
Paul...you guessed it..an okie!  :laugh:
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Post by: Gaur on July 02, 2013, 10:08:55 pm
Really nice bow Eric.  Your post about the sinew reminds me of a visit to Jaap.  He had a really old broken Asiatic horn bow that he wanted to study to see how they made them.  It took him a week with it in the bathtub to get the sinew and glue to start to break down.  He has it all taken apart in pieces and behind a glass frame. 
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Post by: BowEd on July 02, 2013, 11:17:40 pm
Say now Indian Guy that's blasphamos[think that's the way to spell it....LOL] using acrylic paint on that bow. ;D
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Post by: PaulN/KS on July 02, 2013, 11:40:08 pm
Paul...you guessed it..an okie!  :laugh:

I thought so... ;) I used to live near Tulsa.
When I moved to Kansas I had learn to call bodark "hedge", otherwise folks didn't know what I was talking about.
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Post by: okie64 on July 03, 2013, 12:12:47 am
Beautiful piece of "bodark". Looks like a great treestand bow at that length.