Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Badly Bent on July 18, 2013, 08:19:28 pm
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Thought I was making a bow today, turned out all I got was shavings and kindling.
Gotta a laugh about it, good therapy. :laugh: :laugh:
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:) Just cracked open a cold one, step 2 of the therapy. :)
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It broke in tension. Investigate! ;)
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Funny, my wife just called me in for dinner and I brought in the bow I'm working on for her to look at. I told her that it would probably be fire wood soon as I'm sure it's gonna break. She reminded me that I say that about most if not all of them. She's right, but this one has that feel to it. ERC board with good grain....except for one little spot. I'm on a pretty long win streak and I'm due. Your post was perfect timing. At least you got it out of the way, mine's yet to happen....maybe tonight... :)
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I feel your pain Greg. I put a week into a sister stave to that elm that I sent you and it busted all to pieces.... Hope you have better luck with your half!
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Greg................ I really appreciate seeing a failure once in a while. Some bowers make it look like it never happens. But we know better :-[ :embarassed:
Respectfully,
DBar
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It's just a minor set back nothing a little CA glue and a sinew wrap won't fix. You can do it we have faith in you.
Grady
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Lots of flaws, dips, dives and knots on the limb that snapped Pat. Not that I can't break perfect wood too. :)
Just get out there and break yours Slim, make me feel better bud.
Howard, beat ya to it. I broke that elm sister you sent me months ago.
Your welcome Bill, stay tuned I may break another this weekend. :D
Dream on Grady.
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I'd still far rather be shaving away on a stave doomed to fail, than spend my time researching what accessories I am going to bolt on to a wheelie bow! >:D
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I'd still far rather be shaving away on a stave doomed to fail, than spend my time researching what accessories I am going to bolt on to a wheelie bow! >:D
Correction: I'd still far rather be shaving away on a stave doomed to fail, than spend my time researching what accessories I'm going to pay a technician to bolt onto a wheelie bow! >:D >:D
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aw buckthorn blew on ya.. I've got four in the works, wish me luck. A pyramid, a molly, something with flipped tips, and a bendy handle.
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Amen JW, with ya there!
Good luck TF, you gotta do better than me I'm batting 2 for five on this buckthorn in the past 7 weeks.
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Been there,sorry about the break but sounds like your therapy plan is a pretty good one. ;) :)
Pappy
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The mighty buckthorn finally gives way! I love that stuff. Keep at it Greg!
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Hmmmm? Maybe buckthorn can be weak in tension at times(maybe due to high crowned gnarly spots)...I've had one let loose in tension as well at a funky raised swirly high crowned spot
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I've had one buckthorn fail me, but that piece was an experiment with 15 thorn knots on the back, so I dont think that counts. I got it out to 23" before it went crack, a tension failure between two knots. However, even with the tension failure, it still wouldnt break, even at full draw and beyond, until I actually stepped on the failing area.
Actually, that's probably because the break couldn't travel due to being in between two knots. Just thought of that.
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I believe this batch of buckthorn may have some type of rot or fungus problem. It was salvaged from the pile in the picture below and when I stumbled onto it the guy had been cutting and piling it up for a four months or more. I've
had 3 break exactly the same way in tension from 5 attempts from this batch. Sent a couple to Jon W a couple weeks ago and his first attempt broke the same also.
Now I'm starting to feel bad because I passed quite a few of these around to some real good bowyers at the Classic back in May. So if your one of those guys be careful and maybe put on a helmet while tillering. :o
I will say of the two I didn't break one of them is my smoothest shooting to date and I've probably put 900 arrows thru it in the past 7 weeks and every time I unstring it it returns right back to its original profile. I'll try a few more
from this batch before I give up and move on. :)
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forgot the pic.
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Bummer about it blowing on you, but I do appreciate the heads up. I will keep that in mind when I go to working on that stuff. Hopefully I'll get a shooter or two out of it. If not, oh well. I'll have some pretty overlay and accent material! I appreciate it either way. Josh
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Might be wise then to back all future attempts with at least rawhide with this batch...or rip the first ring off or two and back it?
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Yeah, hope you get one to work Josh. I don't think all of those staves were bad.
Good advice Chris. May try chase a couple rings on the next one, not sure I could rawhide back over all the knots, valleys and such. The pieces I have left are all pretty character laden to say the least.
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Rawhide when wet n glued easily forms over such undulations...if ya need some I can cut some strips off a hide for ya n give em to ya at elm hall?
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I cant imagine chasing a ring on BT, none that I have anyway.
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May take you up on that kind offer Blackhawk, thanks.
I chased a few sapwood rings on one successfully a few months back Pearl, it was no fun at all ;D. The bow actually
survived my tillering and shoots. Still at the shop, never bothered putting a finish on it though because even though
it seems to be properly tillered its to ugly for me to shoot. Its one of those where the limbs come out of the handle at
completely different funky angles that at brace it looks like 1" negative till at top limb. Was gonna be a gift but I just
can't give something that funny looking to someone. :)
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I'll try to remember to bring some up....(hopefully)... ::)