Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: loefflerchuck on July 26, 2013, 06:29:34 pm
-
Measured around the curves it is just over 38" tip to tip. 32" long unstrung and 34.5 braced. 52# @ 23". 7 layers of sinew. 3x sinew string.
I've made a few bighorn bows but this is my first all Dall horn bow. Bighorn horns don't have as much curl and are wider so strait pieces can be cut from them to make a strait bow. Dall horns have more curl. I don't boil horn strips for more than 10 min(It starts to weaken the horn after that) and some of the twist that comes out with that will return in time. To accommodate for this I make the handle splice v off a little so with the twist the string still lines up center of the handle(see pic). The other way to combat this is use horns from the same side of a different ram. This makes a reverse propeller twist. The little matching arrows are wild rose and I used these for testing. All shots were between 148 and 168 fps. 5 shots between 164 and 168. This is pretty good for such a heavy horn sinew combo. Very little stack. weight in the first few inches of draw is not much less than at full draw.
-
That's a nice looking bow. Ed
-
HAAAAAA SWEEEEET!
Id enjoy shooting that tinybow so much. looks like a killer to me Chuck. Man you you awesome work
-
Nice work Chuck!!! That's just plain awesome!
Tattoo Dave
-
Man that is something else Chuck! I dream of bows like that 8)
-
HAAAAAA SWEEEEET!
I second this exact statement, :). Beautiful bow.
-
Very cool. Nice bend!!
-
Real nice build, very impressive.
-
Oh Cool!
Im not usually in to shorties but i think ill make an exeption here :)
-
Cupid. That was the first thing that came to mind. That and I think the little bugger hit me in the butt with one of his arrows just as I saw the first pic of it!
Not an easy bow to make, but I think you nailed it.
-
Thanks everyone. Here is one I just started to bend after 4 months on the rack. Have not strung it yet. Easing into it. It has a long way to bend to make it past 20" draw
-
Sweet
-
Beautifull bow, Chuck. You must have short arms ;).
-
Very cool little bow
-
Wow, that is quite a bow! Very authentic looking :D
-
Wow is right.
-
This is a very cool bow. Most of us can only dream about building bows like this. Well done!!! 8)
-
I am impressed! nice attention to detail and wonderful brace profile. Love the full draw too.
thanks for posting.
-
Those are very cool.... someday I am going to try one. .... maybe ::)
THAnks for posting them
-
This is my favorite type of bow
-
Wow, from unbraced to full draw those tips look to be traveling farther than the bow is long! Looks like you are mastering these horn bows.
-
Nice bow. I love the full draw picture. You have it figured out
-
Thanks everybody. The cost of the horns and time spend in construction makes this build a little stressful but when everything works out iin the end it is worth it. Mullet, I am 5 10 and have almost a fathom(6ft wing span). People tell me I must be drawing the bows I post further but that arrow is only 23" to the point. My full draw to my mouth is only 26". I think with short bows I crane my neck foreward a bit to compensate
-
You got some serious skills Chuck! I love seeing your work! Josh
-
WOW.....that is AWESOME!
-
That is an Awesome bow.
-
Awesome!
-
Real cool, Chuck!
-
that's a masterpiece!
I would like to see more pics, esp. some details of handle and tips.
How did you prepare the horn before sinewing?
Is there any wood inside?
-
Pretty sweet little bow.....
-
Tremendous bow Chuck! I'm gonna second Simsonm on the request for the tips/grip photos.
-
I love it!!! :D
-
No there is no wood core in this bow. It is a American composite replica. Here are the pics of the tips and handle. The handle on this bow is wrapped with sinew so I have a bighorn bow I am about to back with the sane handle. A leo splice with two 4" sections of horn for handle risers. Glued and riveted with copper pegs(Nez Perce copy)
-
Awesome work Chuck! :o
-
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!
-
Thank you for the details!
Awesome work, very good!
-
That is too cool, thanks for sharing.
-
Chuck, to my that is the ultimate weapon, one day I'll get some horns and attempt that bow! If you need someone to test it on Florida animals send it my way! LOL
BTW, still shooting both bows I got from you.
Take care,
Donnie
-
Thanks Donnie,
Like I say, anyone who knows how horn/sinew works and has a lot of patience can make one of these.
I still have your osage bow. It was my first osage bow. Now have a few more. Shot it yesterday
-
Dæven døtte.........awesome bow. Top level. Sheep horns are rare. Masterpiece. :-)
-
I need one of these for concealed carry >:D
-
where did you get your copper? I have never seen copper wire that thick.
Again I say, Nice work.
-
I got hold of some 6mm ( about 1/4" i think)copper when they grounded the lightningrods of an old school close by.
-
Congrats on your bow,skills,and patience.Wonderful little rocket launcher.Good pictures also of the progress.Thanks for sharing.
-
that would be a very handy bow in the bush! Nice speed you got from it too. Must have some good cast. Nice job.
-
Sweet bow! Not into shorties but this one is awesome! I am making an osage/sinew one next build!!
-
Amazing work. They always look like cartoon bows at full draw as appear tiny compared to a wood bow.
Would love to try one of these one day.
-
Very well done!!!
-
That is so kool man!
-
Simply beautiful.
-
Just too cool for school!
Superb bow.
I understand the stress part..... ;)
-
Excellent bow!
-
Impressive all the way around.
-
Absolutely a standout. I have a feeling we'll be seeing this twice in the magazine!
-
Beautiful bow.
Dumb question though would applying some of the sinew at an angle keep it from twisting some
-
Awesome!
-
Not a dumb question at all Anasazi. I could be a know it all and give you my opinion as fact but this would take some experiments. The memory of these horns are pretty strong unless you boil them into brittle submission. Applying the sinew at an angle may help a little?? You can reduce horn from one side then use heat to untwist it a little but you don't want an uneven limb, or one side of the bow sinew heavy. This is uneven stress. I just take the strips out of the form and wait a few weeks to splice the handle and sinew. This way you are lining up the string in the center of the handle. We like character wood bows. Why not horn bows as long as they stable and good shooters?
-
So that is exclusively horn and sinew? No wood?
-
No wood. 50% horn and 50% sinew 7 layers
-
Incredible.
-
Nice! I have a pair of dall sheep horns. I want to make a bow. Should I shave the horns down before straightening? Or can I just cut the back off, then boil and straighten and shave and file it down then?
-
Reduce it a bit first. Don't boil the horn for more than 10 min. Although keratin does not break down into a glue when cooked it will make the horn brittle if boiled too long. Thinner horn will straiten easier.
-
Okay, that's what I was planning to do, reduce it so it is consistent, then bring it to final size after it is straightened. Is it possible to work out any twists by heat treating and then bending it? Saw a Korean guy do this with one of their horn bows. Thanks
-
I got the back cut off the horns, but the inside is still rather thick. About 1/2 inch. Should I thin it more before I boil it?
-
Rasp off any flaws to get to the perfect horn. 1/2" is not too thick. That should flatten. Then reduce it to close to the bow size and it will be easy to shape
-
Yup, like what everyone has already said.
Exemplary work. Great to see the detail of the splice, thanks for posting.
Del