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Title: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 24, 2007, 10:14:15 am
As the topic says "does cold effect the workability of wood" It recently dropped to around 20 degress here the other day and I was in the garage ( no heat) and was working on my first bow (hickory backed cherry) and it seemed like the spoke shave ( freshly sharpened) and the rasp were jumpin across the wood and not getting very good bite, so I was wondering if due to the fact the wood bends better when its warmer could the opposite be said when its cold in relation to how it responds to the knife? Danny
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 24, 2007, 10:41:43 am
My bows become stiffer in the cold. I do think that the wood  would (a poor man's alliteration) become harder to work too. Jawge
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 24, 2007, 01:12:58 pm
I think then that I shall "shang hi"  the spare bedroom and turn it into my temp winter quarters for my bow making. I'll just have to make sure it stays tidy or I might get a spankin. On the other hand that might be a good thing....lol
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Pat B on November 24, 2007, 01:41:02 pm
Most homes are way dryer in the winter than in the summer...although, I guess ac has changed that a bit.  I do most of my bow building from now til spring. We heat with a wood stove so our house in very dry. While working on bows, I stand them behind the wood stove between sessions. By the time the bow is finished, it is quite dry. Lots of exercising is necessary while building the bow to keep the wood more flexible and ease tension and compression stresses.    Pat
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 24, 2007, 01:46:39 pm
Good point. I don't have the wood heat but was thinking on doing a hotbox anyway. may give me a good reason to get on it.
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 24, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
My hot box gets turned on as soon as the boiler goes on in the fall. I lay the stave on top f the radiator or next to it. Works really well. Jawge
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Bishop on November 24, 2007, 03:26:01 pm
the Temp has really dropped here in Kansas the last few days and like Danny i dont have a heated "outdoor" workspace, so i spread out a old sheet and was working on the handle of my first bow while sitting in the living room watching football... ;D...i got the strangest look from my wife when she got home from work but she didnt say anything, i guess she is getting used to me doing odd things. (like stopping the car and getting out to look at any downed tree i see or slowing down to try and identify a good looking straight one)

Bishop
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 24, 2007, 03:32:15 pm
Bish, that is so funny. I started doing the same thing when I got started a few months ago. Fletching arrows in the front room on the coffee table or putting my true oil finish on my Osage sidewinder. lol. As Gunny Highway said in Heartbreak Ridge..."adapt and over come ladies" By the way, you being a homeboy and all here in the KansasTerritory; anything you need just holler. Danny
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: mullet on November 24, 2007, 05:10:17 pm
   Danny,I think the cold has alot to do with how much moisture is in the wood.Also when it drops down in the 40's here,I'm shaking so hard my drawknife chatter's across the wood,too.And then again,living between the Gulf of Mexico and The Atlantic Ocean,I wonder if the tides have any effect on the wood here? ??? ::)
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 24, 2007, 06:07:23 pm
Well, considering that the moon has the effect on the tides due to magnetic pull I would say that moisture evaporation rate could be effected by the pressure variations in the moons cycle. Notice I said could be.... But I would think where the temp is concerned wet wood would dry out slower when its cold than when its warm.
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: mullet on November 24, 2007, 08:02:56 pm
 :) :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 24, 2007, 08:05:25 pm
   Danny,I think the cold has alot to do with how much moisture is in the wood.Also when it drops down in the 40's here,I'm shaking so hard my drawknife chatter's across the wood,too.And then again,living between the Gulf of Mexico and The Atlantic Ocean,I wonder if the tides have any effect on the wood here? ??? ::)
Hmm ask Richarrd Longbow , he would know ! ;D ;D ;D ;D......................bob
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: DanaM on November 25, 2007, 09:40:44 am
Good one bob, eddie I think the tide would effect the bow if ya soak it in a tidal pool ;)
40's cold I don't get it ??? ;D
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: a finnish native on November 25, 2007, 11:08:51 am
I have shot in -40 cenbtigrade and I noticed no difference in the performance of the bow. although one can not shoot for long in those kinda temps. it feels like your fingers would drop off. that is before you cant feel them  :D
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: nugget on November 25, 2007, 05:53:41 pm
I have noticed a little difference in the wood as the temp drops. The last on I just fiinished was a bit stiffer and wood seemed harder.
As far as working indoors, I have not yet fully converted our spare bedroom to my workshop. I do all but the Knapping and bow making indoors. I am looking for something to cover the carpet in that room so I can work inside during the winter. I have no place outside the house yet to work on bows. If I am outside I am at the will of the elements. I do enjoy working outside.
                                                        T.J.
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: bowmo on November 25, 2007, 06:03:04 pm
The only thing I've ever noticed is that it makes it hard for my fingers to pull on the string.... ;)
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: Sidewinder on November 26, 2007, 07:13:10 pm
I don't mean the workability when you shoot, I mean workability when you are roughing one out with hand tools. It just seems to me that the spoke shave wasn't bitting like it was when its warmer out. Maybe its just me.

Dana M...lol yeah I'm sure up in Mich your outside in your shortsleeves at 40
Title: Re: Does cold effect workability of wood?
Post by: juniper junkie on November 28, 2007, 11:34:51 am
I would think that just as heat expands and softens the wood, that cold would have the opposite effect. as to the extent, I dont know. :-\
 You might be a bowyer if.." Your spare bedroom has more trees in it than your yard.." ;D