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Title: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 03, 2013, 03:04:47 am
Hello again,

So I'm chasing the ring on this little snakey turd of a stave and got a few questions. It's about 52" long and kinda snakey. I was wondering if I could connect siyahs on top to make it a little longer. I'm sorta just winging this. I tried uploading pix but they r too big. Also if it is in sort of an "S" shape should I leave pat of the curve for the bevel and take off one said to straighten it? Ill work on figuring out the pictures.  Thanks
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: osage outlaw on August 03, 2013, 10:05:09 am
What kind of draw length are you trying to get out of it?  If I was working that stave I would add a sinew backing instead of siyahs, but that's just me.  I like short sinewed bows.  Try to post some pictures if you can.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Joec123able on August 03, 2013, 01:24:01 pm
It's possible but I would probably just either do what Osage outlaw said or make a bend through the handle type bow
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Pat B on August 03, 2013, 02:52:03 pm
If this is your first bow I'd say to find a long stave and learn how to tiller first. After you have that under your belt you can try this short, snakey stave. You have to learn to crawl before you can learn to walk!!!
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 03, 2013, 02:56:33 pm
My other osage stave isn't dry yet. And I'm itching! I'm just gonna go for this one, I know my chance of failure. We're gonna let it ride and try it. If I can figure out how to downsize my pics ill post some
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: DLH on August 03, 2013, 07:34:37 pm
If this is your first bow I'd say to find a long stave and learn how to tiller first. After you have that under your belt you can try this short, snakey stave. You have to learn to crawl before you can learn to walk!!!

I second this being a new guy myself you will make some mistakes and wish you had kept that snakey stave. You will learn a lot if you go through with it but you will learn a lot from chasing a ring on a beginner stave too.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 03, 2013, 11:18:31 pm
I'm about to have another daughter and I have no means of getting another stave, so I just have to be diligent and maybe I can get a bow out of this, maybe not. But either way I'm enjoying myself. I'm sure u fellas are correct that it prolly isn't gonna work, but I gotta try. It's all a learning experience wether on a snakey little turd or a long nice stave, I'm sure ill find a way to mess it up! I really appreciate everyone's advice and input. Thanks again
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: DLH on August 04, 2013, 12:03:53 am
If that's all ya got and having fun then go for it these guys here will keep you on the right track I do know that!
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 04, 2013, 12:38:11 am
I figured I'd practice on the stuff I got free before I bought a stave. But if the bow actually works out it will be called bulldozer, as that's how I aquired the stave. Well log. And again I appreciate everyone's help and experience.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Poggins on August 04, 2013, 09:38:30 am
Can you post a pic of the stave ? It's easer to help some one if you can see what they are working on , I've seen a lot of short osage bows ,y shorty is 48" tip to tip and 47" ntn and just over 40# at 20 inches of draw and I stump shoot with it and use it for bowfishing  .
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 04, 2013, 10:41:14 am
How can I shrink the picture. It says its too big to post. Any help?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: DLH on August 04, 2013, 12:11:18 pm
I upload mine to photobucket then adjust the size from there and use the img link to paste directly into my post.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: CORIUS on August 04, 2013, 04:27:50 pm
If you open the photo using the program paint (right click photo, select open with, click on paint) there is a button in the upper left hand corner of paint that says resize. So just continue to resize the photo until it is 200kb or less
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 04, 2013, 04:48:36 pm
I use my phone, still can't figure it out
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: CORIUS on August 04, 2013, 11:10:04 pm
Do you have or have access to a computer?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 04, 2013, 11:26:40 pm
My keyboard took a dump, so for now no
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 04, 2013, 11:34:26 pm
I think I figured it out
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 05, 2013, 12:14:19 am
They're a little smushed. But u get the idea. Also how bad do u think that knot is?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: CORIUS on August 05, 2013, 06:08:44 am
Looks fine as long as you work with the knot. Leave some meat on it and follow its grain over the back and along the side.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 05, 2013, 10:04:02 am
It's all down to one ring. There's a little of the other ring left around it. I scraped the crap out of it with a razor blade. The ring I chased is 1/8+ so I hope that has enough meat
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: BOWMAN53 on August 05, 2013, 12:07:18 pm
is that top limb really as messed up as i think it is?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 05, 2013, 01:02:15 pm
Lol I haven't finished chasing the grain. So it is messed up but not down to the ring yet. I'm not that new
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 06, 2013, 03:01:45 am
So for a 52" bendy osage bow how thick should the handle be?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Joec123able on August 06, 2013, 03:59:07 am
There's a definete bow in that piece of Osage that knot will look really good anyways the thickness in the handle will determine its self during tillering there's no set thickness for it
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: hedgeapple on August 06, 2013, 04:24:49 am
I just finished a 53" ntn bendy handle osage. I believe it was right at .70" at the handle.  It is 1.3" wide with flip about 2.25" of tips flipped. It turned out 54# @ 26" and took 1/2 set through the working section of the limb.  The tips are still 1.75" reflexed past the handle.  It's not sinew backed.
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: The Gopher on August 06, 2013, 09:49:29 am
from what i can see in the first pic, it looks like you have five or more rings to go down before removing that damaged top of the limb, how thick is that stave?
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 06, 2013, 10:15:43 am
The ring is all chased now. Its about 1" in the center to around 3/4" in the tips. Time for the rasp and razor blade
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 07, 2013, 02:15:38 am
So this is where I'm at. Parts are bending some less than others. Scrape scrape scrape  :embarassed:

Any tips or advice. Plz fill me in. My first bow. Going for 50# at ?? Long as I can get. How I think in doing?

Excuse my mess  ::)
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 07, 2013, 03:38:07 pm
No love? Or advice. I'm still working on it regardless. I come from hard Knox, sometimes u just gotta learn the hard way. I've done a lot of research so it's like studying for a test right? It's bending better now but still a lot of lean to do so, I don't want to stress it too much. I want to temper the belly. Just roast it like some chestnuts? Or ?? Lol
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Joec123able on August 07, 2013, 03:57:47 pm
Lookin good looks as if you may need to do alittle straightening especially if you want to add siyahs
Title: Re: Osage shorty (first bow)
Post by: Blaflair2 on August 20, 2013, 03:48:15 pm
So this is where I'm at on this... Almost time for a string. I put it up for a week or so trying to get ready for my daughters arrival. What do u think? I glued a piece of quilted maple for an arrow pass and I plan on putting thin layer of leather. I figured on putting it on before tillering to make sure it doesn't affect it. This knot is killing me. (Scraping with a razor blade) really sux. Lol. I know I know get a scraper they say... I have VERY limited funds right now. So bear with me. Ill get it done.