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Title: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 08, 2013, 09:53:54 pm
Fellas,
    a while back Don Carter gave me a hickory stave, that had been cut and sealed back in '08. While finishing the 2 Odawa presentation bows decided to make me one (since I didn't have any of my bows anymore) to hunt with this fall.
     The bow is hickory, generic Easter Woodland, and 48 inches long (ntn), weighs between 47/48 @ 25" and just a tad over 50# @ 26". Paint is ground earth pigment, and charcoal both mixed w/perch eggs (simmered to form a binder). The bow was finished with the usual pitch/deer fat/ beeswax. The paint was applied with a "rag" made from some thin leather scrap.
      It has no appreciable set, shoots very hard and has a real smooth draw. Another example of some crummy no-good white wood bow, eh >:D
rich
PS: I had another post a while ago and someone asked for dimensions but I had sent the Chickasaw bow all-ready.... if anyone would like dimensions from this bow....or the 43" Ironwood and 46" osage Odawa presentation bows please advise. I can still measure these.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: CherokeeKC on August 08, 2013, 10:22:36 pm
Yes PLEASE post dimensions!  I have a hickory flatbow im finishing now.  Awesome bow by the way!  I love every single bow you make.  Hope I get to that level sometime in my life.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Badly Bent on August 08, 2013, 10:25:44 pm
Sweet hunting stick Rich, bow like that seems whisper ... take me to the woods ... take me to the woods to hunt.
Hope you get something with it this fall.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: JonW on August 08, 2013, 10:36:23 pm
Awesome little bow Rich. I hope it fills the freezer.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: tattoo dave on August 08, 2013, 10:45:15 pm
Another sweet bow Rich! Perch eggs :o :o That's too cool!! Nice work pal!

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Ifrit617 on August 08, 2013, 10:53:57 pm
You know that's the kind of bow I love right there. Awesome job on that one Rich!

Jon
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: IdahoMatt on August 08, 2013, 10:56:29 pm
Nice carving on the tip.  Beautiful craftsmanship!.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: BL on August 08, 2013, 10:57:44 pm
I always admire your even bends.   Good color, and the carving on the nocks is a nice touch!
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 08, 2013, 11:02:19 pm
Here is the dimensions: (these are actual, after being all tillered out and not what the bows started out to be).
Width: [for the middle 12"] 1.28" / mid-limb 1.15" / tips @ knock shoulder .75" The bow is parallel sided for the center 12-14 inch, then a straight taper to the tips. The tips are layed out at 3/4" wide at the time of rough-in. They are a little bigger when you drop down 1" to cut the string knock.
Thickness: Middle 12" .558" / midlimb .423" and .428" / tips  .377". The stave is medium high crowned and the belly is very low crowned, the egdes are well rounded.

If I missed something please let me know.
rich
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Adam on August 09, 2013, 12:44:38 am
Wow!  Like all your others, that's an impressive bow. 
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: dwardo on August 09, 2013, 07:03:22 am
Very nice as usual and thanks for the measurements. Those nocks are a real feature.

What is "w/perch eggs" ?
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Pappy on August 09, 2013, 07:11:55 am
Beautiful shorty Rich,as we have come to expect from you.Nice tiller. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: johnfolchetti on August 09, 2013, 08:04:24 am
Beautiful as always Rich....hope you draw blood withit this year.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 09, 2013, 08:39:21 am
Dwardo, the binder for the paint is made by smashing up fish roe and simmering them. The Ojibwe and Odawa used perch (and others) for the color on their petroglyphs and it's still showing today.

Thank you for the nice comments and glad ya like it. This one is as simple as you can make a bow I guess, but it pleases me.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: rps3 on August 09, 2013, 08:49:09 am
I get to see a sweet bow, and learn something new. Thanks. Good luck hunting.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: SLIMBOB on August 09, 2013, 08:49:30 am
Like the simple ones a lot.  Very nice Sir.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: burchett.donald on August 09, 2013, 08:54:35 am
 Rich, every time I see one of your bows I say I'm going to try a shorty. I vow to myself on the next bow I will. Thanks for the inspiration and the posts you made in the How To section on short bow tillering again. Keep it coming I appreciate your work.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: lesken2011 on August 09, 2013, 08:57:43 am
No problems with that shortie in the blind!! Real sweet bend, Rich. You sure get everything out of a piece of wood!! :o
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: autologus on August 09, 2013, 09:38:21 am
I never get tired of looking at your bows, I look forward to seeing your latest creations.

Grady
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: coaster500 on August 09, 2013, 10:14:13 am
Now that looks to be a meat maker to me Rick :)

Very nicely done!!!
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: koan on August 09, 2013, 11:04:03 am
That is what primitive archery is all about Bro. Simple and beautiful... and proof that with excellant tillering we can get sooo much more from a peice of wood! You Sir have raised the bar for us all.. Very humbling to me... Please put this one in BOM running cuz this one is what its all about to me... Brian
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 09, 2013, 05:36:40 pm
Thanks everyone for the nice comments, These type of bows just really fascinate me, because of their efficiency, in the simplest form possible.

koan: not a chance, ever
rich
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: bubby on August 09, 2013, 05:42:06 pm
that ott to put steaks in the pan Rich, great bend, bub
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: koan on August 09, 2013, 05:42:58 pm
Lol.... Well its still a winner in my book, well done man... Brian
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Traxx on August 09, 2013, 10:56:39 pm
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Parnell on August 09, 2013, 11:15:32 pm
It's a sweet looking bow, Rich.  I'm getting more and more inspired to start fiddlin' around with pigments.  Great work and I hope it brings you luck!
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Knapper on August 09, 2013, 11:31:23 pm
After seeing your post on here it got me making bendy handle bows and I really love them, you sir have got it to an art thanks
Knapper
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: H Rhodes on August 10, 2013, 02:24:24 am
Another fine one Rich.  Good luck this year.  That one ought to get it done.   
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Josh B on August 11, 2013, 02:04:40 pm
I'm diggin' it Rich!  You are the master!  The carved tip is a brilliant touch.  Subtle, yet eye catching in a classy sort of way.  Josh
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on August 11, 2013, 07:49:16 pm
Sweet little shooter there......
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: ken75 on August 11, 2013, 09:47:36 pm
Beautiful bow rich ,perfect bend ,i need to attend your bow class :)
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Don on August 11, 2013, 09:57:42 pm
Two thumbs up Rich. Very nice.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 11, 2013, 10:37:16 pm
Thanks for all the nice comments everybody. Ken, ya got nothing to learn from this old man,eh?

Don, been tryin to get ahold of you but yer phone wont ring through, bud.
rich
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: Don on August 11, 2013, 10:56:13 pm
I'll give you a jingle tomorrow Rich.
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: IsaacW on August 12, 2013, 10:52:27 am
Love it!  I could look at the bows you make all day... but not in a creepy sort of way  :o
Seriously though, very beautiful and I think we have similar tastes in bows!

Isaac
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 12, 2013, 11:01:42 am
Pretty impressive, Rich. Love the paint too. Jawge
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: ohma2 on August 12, 2013, 12:54:52 pm
as usual rich . another good looker. :o :o
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: simson on August 13, 2013, 06:34:04 pm
WOW!
Your are the master of the short bows!
I like the super  tiller and the straight profile, also the paint job. I have seen the explanation you have given to dwardo, but what means the letter w/?
I make my paints with pigments and hide or fish glue.
This is really a very nice bow!
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: half eye on August 13, 2013, 06:43:38 pm
Simson, Sorry for the short hand writing......[w/] is a short way of writing "with". as example

"I mix my ground pigment with fish egg binder"  but write it "I mix my ground pigments w/fish egg binder"    By the way the fish eggs are nearly the same as fish glue that's made from swim bladders.
rich
Title: Re: 48" Hickory, 47/48 @ 25, personal huntig bow
Post by: okiecountryboy on August 15, 2013, 05:36:47 am
Here is the dimensions: (these are actual, after being all tillered out and not what the bows started out to be).
Width: [for the middle 12"] 1.28" / mid-limb 1.15" / tips @ knock shoulder .75" The bow is parallel sided for the center 12-14 inch, then a straight taper to the tips. The tips are layed out at 3/4" wide at the time of rough-in. They are a little bigger when you drop down 1" to cut the string knock.
Thickness: Middle 12" .558" / midlimb .423" and .428" / tips  .377". The stave is medium high crowned and the belly is very low crowned, the egdes are well rounded.

If I missed something please let me know.
rich

Thanks for the info Rich.