Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: criveraville on August 09, 2013, 11:06:56 pm
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The other day I harvested some nice mesquite beans. I took a pic and posted it on my classroom Facebook page. A lady that works in the cafeteria said she didn't know you could eat them.. I commented and then explained how various south western tribes had many uses for the mesquite beans..
Then stupidity showed up.. A former teacher chimed in. She works for a different district, but my children could have had her as a classroom teacher.. Thank goodness that didn't happen.. Here's what she had to say:
Native Americans Couldn't Have Eaten Them! They Weren't Introduced To This Area Until Well After We "Called" Them "Native" Americans! I'm a Botanist! Mesquites Are Not Indigenous to THIS State Or Country.
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Wow,, just,, wow! ???
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Botanist? Was she given an honorary title? God I hope she doesn't vote! :o Uh, I think you should encourage her to go on line, and look up Mesquite, then do a historical useage search.
Perhaps, she might wake up. ::) Who knows, maybe if you mention the "Lost Comanche gold Mines", in the area, she will wander off into the desert...... ::)
Wayne
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Yep 4dog ;)
Wayne, you are right on all counts!! Worst part is that she was being.. Ummm well not nice.. And was sharp shooting.. Crazy.. Na.. I think that degree came out of a gum ball machine..
Cipriano
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Might want to ask her where she came up with that info. Then direct her to the correct sources, such as the local Ag. Commission, all on face book of course, so the kids can also check out the sites. ;)
Wayne
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I have to chime in here. Mesquite has been here forever!! As a member of the Apache nation, our warbows were traditionally made from mesquite. Does she think that just because she's a botonist that what she says goes?! She needs to go back to school!!
G
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so how does mesquite shoot?
wow... then agian I am also kinda guilty of that sometimes...
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Shoots great!!! It's finding a long enough piece that poses the biggest problem nowadays.
G
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warpath that's it. It was well established when the Spanish crosses the US in the early 1500's and the term Native Ameican wasn't in use until the 1960's.
Yep.. Pretty much.. This lady felt pretty higjt and mighty on an old nag Shetland pony..
Where are you located? We have plenty of long thick mesquite in these parts..
Cipiano
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There ya go Warpath, the old spinster nag, actually did some good, instead of her intended nastiness. Load up with "newly introduced species of bow wood, called Mesquite:. ;D
Cipriano ask her where she got her info, and from where was it supposedly introduced?
And how come all them "Injuns" didn't know they were "Native Americans, till the 60's ? I guess it was because they were eating the mesquite beans before they were officially introduced to the U.S. . ;) Sounds like she has some personal issues, so to speak. Pm me the face book site, and I will send a little note of ....uh..... correction, so to speak. ::) ::)
Wayne
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hehe. reply with the appropriate links from credible sites and at the end of the post type.....
BOTONIZE THAT!!! or BOTONIZE THAT B :o TCH!!
whichever you are more comfortable with. >:D
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hehe. reply with the appropriate links from credible sites and at the end of the post type.....
BOTONIZE THAT!!! or BOTONIZE THAT B :o TCH!!
whichever you are more comfortable with. >:D
I second this. ;D
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Criveraville- Relocated to New Jersey many many moons ago. I'll pm you.
G
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Hahhaa she isnt the brightest nut in the turd is she ::)
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stupidity aside, I really didn't know you could eat those i learned something new today
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Actually my mother in law makes mesquite jelly from the beans ,, it doesnt last long in my house...its AWESOME!!!
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There was a story on the History channel, that told of a stage coach robbery, or actually, they were all killed, and the horses, and anything of value was taken. When it was found, they were not sure that it was Apache's, till they...... uh,.... found some Apache....... uh scat :o ::), where they had hidden before the coach arrived, and in it were mesquite beans. :o
Wayne
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There was a story on the History channel, that told of a stage coach robbery, or actually, they were all killed, and the horses, and anything of value was taken. When it was found, they were not sure that it was Apache's, till they...... uh,.... found some Apache....... uh scat :o ::), where they had hidden before the coach arrived, and in it were mesquite beans. :o
Wayne
They left a "scent trail"
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Many believe that though Mesquite may have been on the southern plains practically forever, it was the cattle drives out of Mexico and Texas that greatly spread the Mesquite. Ranchers and the cattle industry in general also affected the spread or rather density because a cow will eat mesquite beans when grass is scarce. How does the spread of a tree species and cattle drives relate? Well, the Mesquite seed has a very hard outer shell that requires "scarification" - abrasion of the outer shell for it to germinate. The digestive system of a cow (or other things that eat the bean) breaks down the seeds hard outer shell and allows it to germinate. Of course other animals could ingest mesquite beans as well and that could account for their gradual spread. I am simply saying that the cattle drives, which were extensive, greatly spread the tree from south Texas to a lot of other areas.
This is probably why the woman said what she said, but she overstated it and was wrong. I am sure the buffalo also played a role in the spread of the tree.
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Just like trying to tell a northern college geek that Palm trees are not native to NW Florida.They only know what those books teach them,and not much common sense in there. :)
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as seen on a Face Book post "Common sense is so rare it ought to be considered a superpower!"
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I've had people try to convince me that fire ants are a native species to Texas, some people are always willing to share their uninformed opinions and in general the less informed they are the more belligerent they seem to get
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I've had people try to convince me that fire ants are a native species to Texas, some people are always willing to share their uninformed opinions and in general the less informed they are the more belligerent they seem to get
A fire ant is not one species. There are a couple hundred different species of fire ants some of which live in the US natively. It's this feller that's from South American and is invasive: Solenopsis invicta. You were likely talking about different ants
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Knowledge is power and a little bit of knowledge is dangerous!
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perhaps we were talking about different ants but i'm guessing that this person just didn't know what they were talking about, either way it wasn't worth arguing about, so i just let it go
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Knowledge is power and a little bit of knowledge is dangerous!
...and I'm a KILLA!
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We all say things that turn out not to be correct - that doesn't mean we're stupid, just human...
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Gordon, this is true, but we ( mostly ) arent so agressive about it. She was just being a plain B****.