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Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: billy on November 30, 2007, 05:07:03 pm

Title: using stone points for small game??
Post by: billy on November 30, 2007, 05:07:03 pm: Got a question....

I've shot 4 squirrels with those damn heavy HTM rubber blunts that my dad got from 3 rivers archery, and every one of those damn things ran off. I shot one right in the chest in Iowa last year at a distance of 12 feet. It knocked the squirrel out and I was trying to get to the squirrel to collect my prize, when the SOB woke up, shook it off, and ran back the other way! That's the equivilant of a human getting shot in the chest with the flat end of a telephone pole at 70 mph. No human would ever walk away from that, but that squirrel did! I couldn't freakin believe it!

I shot 2 squirrels this fall with those rubber blunts and they both ran off unhurt.

So I quit using those blunts and started using stone points. I killed 2 squirrels within 2 weeks of each other. So now I'm sold on stone points more than ever. Anyone ever had any similar experiences?
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: wvfknapper on November 30, 2007, 05:13:01 pm: Yeah same here,, I hit one in the back and luckily it broke his back and I was able to chase him down and wack him with a stick ;D , others got away.........Stone points or broadheads are the way to go.

Robert
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 30, 2007, 06:47:39 pm: ........Rubber blunts er good fer shootin' foks in the butt, THATS IT ! ;D I think the word is WORTHLESS ! :D :D :D......bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: mullet on November 30, 2007, 08:14:28 pm: Billy,Find the thread of all of us at Pat's Camporama.Those arrows I'm trieing to catch out of Cade's 55# bow have rubber blunts.I aint afraid of no rubber. ;D Squirrels are a heck of alot tougher than me ;)
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on November 30, 2007, 08:40:25 pm: Quote from: mullet on November 30, 2007, 08:14:28 pm
Billy,Find the thread of all of us at Pat's Camporama.Those arrows I'm trieing to catch out of Cade's 55# bow have rubber blunts.I aint afraid of no rubber. ;D Squirrels are a heck of alot tougher than me ;)
WOW ! What a guy ! ;D.....bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Pat B on December 01, 2007, 01:49:08 am: Bob, it was fun to watch. ;D Pat
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Justin Snyder on December 01, 2007, 11:39:33 am: Quote from: mullet on November 30, 2007, 08:14:28 pm
Billy,Find the thread of all of us at Pat's Camporama.Those arrows I'm trieing to catch out of Cade's 55# bow have rubber blunts.I aint afraid of no rubber. ;D Squirrels are a heck of alot tougher than me ;)
You could get more damage from letting the fletchings slide through your hand. ;D Especially if you didn't wrap the front of the quill. Justin
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: mullet on December 01, 2007, 03:18:23 pm: Justin,they actually burn little streaks across your hand.
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Stonedog on December 03, 2007, 09:38:46 am: I never ever use a blunt only to shoot at anything I want to kill.

I only use a blunt WITH a cutting blade for small game.....double whammy....
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Lilmoosecountry on December 03, 2007, 12:17:24 pm: Take a 38 casing drill out the now fired primer. Install a small nail into it. Then glue to shaft. Now you have a harder hitting blunt that also pennetrates
Title: Re:.38 blunt points, judos
Post by: Postman on December 11, 2007, 01:22:39 pm: Lilmoose -

Thanks for that .38 with the nail idea idea. Have you found it effective? do they skip up a bit if you hit short? Glad i haven't wasted shots with my new barta blunts. (they are great for practice, though... haven't busted any arrows on some very ugly shots).- gonna try that .38 idea -

Howzabout judo points? they're kinda pricey- hate to waste money for another glorified practice point. i know they don't skip, but hows the wallop?
Thanks guys
Postman
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Kegan on December 11, 2007, 07:46:48 pm: Blunt for when they are against the tree. Pancakes 'em. for not-on-tree shots, good ol' broadheads :).

Tree rats are the toughest things out there. Except maybe for Bob. But what do you expect? He's apparently part skunk-ape >:D!
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 11, 2007, 09:49:36 pm: Hey kegan.....wanna come ta florida and hunt with me ? Can ya spell huntin' accid........... ah never mind ! ;D Yup part Skunk Ape and the other part is Cat, aint ya jealous ? ;D ;D ;D.......bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: koan on December 11, 2007, 09:52:32 pm: Ya...Pole Cat ;)
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 11, 2007, 09:54:21 pm: ............No Koan Panther ! :o............bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: koan on December 11, 2007, 09:56:03 pm: Sorry...was thinkin of Mullet I guess. 8)....Brian
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 11, 2007, 09:56:41 pm: ..................Hey Brian..............Hahahahahahaha ! ;D ;D ;D ;D.......bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: koan on December 11, 2007, 10:02:23 pm: Guess I shouldnt cast dispersions this close to the Christmas trade huh? Dont know whos got my name. :-X
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: david w. on December 11, 2007, 10:48:40 pm: here is a picture of some of my small game points

One is ground slate the other is a nut and the other one iis a .38 cartirge with the primer out and nail inserted

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Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Lilmoosecountry on December 12, 2007, 11:02:08 am: Yeah that might work. Try alittle longer nail hone onthe grinder just alittle. You may need to grind the head of the nail to get threw the casing. Yes i find these to be the only way to go on tree rats. Sorry i don't skipp my shafts. I just take aim & Hit.
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: kiliii on December 13, 2007, 02:57:07 am: Hmmmm, I might be in the minority here but I pretty much use blunts exclusively on everything up to the size of a snowshoe hare. My blunts, though, are solid hardwood about twice the diameter of the arrow shaft, and taper to 1/4".

I've had the opposite experience with squirrels-- every one I hit with a stone or other point ran with the arrow and got away. I lost a bunch that way. Then I switched to blunts and now with squirrels on shot and they are on the ground, twitching from a broken back and unable to escape. Same experience with ground squirrels and, sometimes, cottontails.

I also have found that wasting stone points on small game is a goodly waste of energy and resources-- one miss and then suddenly I have a lot of work to do to make that arrow shootable again. Blunts are usually fine (mine are also covered in a thin buckskin sock on the end to keep them from splitting).
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: adb on December 13, 2007, 10:47:32 am: Hi,
I've had very good success with judo points. I know they're a bit expensive, but I don't lose many (only a couple a year). Every squirrel, rabbit, or grouse I've shot has been dead. I have had some bad luck, like the other folks here, with blunts. I've used the .38 shell casing, but not with the nail in the end. If you want to make a cheap home made judo point, mount a .38 casing and drill 2 holes perpendicular to the shaft in a drill press, and then pound nails throught he holes , so they stick out sideways.
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: mullet on December 13, 2007, 09:32:51 pm: I've used judo's on rabbits and really tore up some meat and guts.They would go clean through them and make a big hole and the the rabbit would crawl off into the palmetto's with the arrow.I kinda like the 38's or nutter's.
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 13, 2007, 09:46:42 pm: ...Like Mullet said........bob
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: mullet on December 14, 2007, 10:42:05 pm: Brian,a bag of coal would suck. ;) ::) >:D
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: D. Tiller on December 15, 2007, 05:52:34 pm: I'll go from now on with the .38 cases and the nail. I have bucket full of them I'm not using to reload with at the moment. Dang, archery habbit has really screwed up my shooting addiction! >:D
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: Hillbilly on December 15, 2007, 08:21:22 pm: Quote
[Brian,a bag of coal would suck. /quote]

Unless you're into blacksmithing ;D ;D
Title: Re: using stone points for small game??
Post by: cowboy on December 15, 2007, 08:37:58 pm: I'm gonna stone point some squirrels to death after deer season, will let ya'll know how it all goes ;).