Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Don Case on September 02, 2013, 12:01:10 am
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I've noticed on a few of the lists of woods that people have sent me to(thank you) that they list "Flowering Dogwood". Is this a generic term or are they referring to a specific species. What I am wondering is if Red Osier is considered a flowering dogwood. There is a Pacific Dogwood here but as it is the provincial emblem it's illegal to cut. This leaves me Red Osier. Oh, this is for bows, not arrows.
Don
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If you can find red osier big enough, it makes a fine bow. Where I live, it's more of a shrub. Every once in a while I find a piece big enough, but not often. Josh
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Flowering dogwood(Cornus florida) is the small understory tree with white flowers in the spring and red berries in the fall that is so common in the Eastern and Southeastern US. Red osier dogwood is also a true Cornus but is a shrub type dogwood and not a tree type dodwood.
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If you can find red osier big enough, it makes a fine bow. Where I live, it's more of a shrub. Every once in a while I find a piece big enough, but not often. Josh
I've got one in the backyard that is about 6" through the butt. My wife even wants it cut down. It's not that straight though.
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Wow! That's a dandy! The biggest I've found was 3". Dry it carefully, it checks easily. It sounds like you will have some heat bending to do. I've had much more luck with steam than dry heat with dogwood(both red osier and alternate leaf). It's kinda stubborn in that regard. Josh
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Hey I like those cooked sticks send it my way ;)
Any dogwood makes a good servicable bow.
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Flowering dog woods a small tree. Iseen them 5,6 inchs.
I've maded 5 bows from it. It's a good bow wood.
I like it for bend in the handle bows.
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I am in Wa. state....Pacific flowering dogwood is excellent wood, and very nice to work. The SG is around .72 I have never worked Eastern dogwood, so I could not compare.
VMB
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There is lots of Pacific Dogwood in the bush behind my house. I wish we were allowed to cut it. I'll use the Red Osier. I'm going to cut it today and see if there is any bows in it. I'm pretty sure the best I will do is a few billets.
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I lied. :-[ It was only 4 1/2" through the butt. It's a guy thing
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So....if I'm understanding this correctly, the only reason you can't harvest the Pacific dogwood is because it's a provincial symbol? Its not endangered in any way? I'll give credit where credit is do. Don, you are one of the most honest bow wood harvesters that I've ever heard of! Lol! I'm not saying, I'm just saying. >:D. Josh
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:) :) :) Well, well, would you shoot an eagle for it's feathers. It's kind of similar, sorta, well maybe not. Anyhow I cut and split the Osier. Anyone need a propeller? 180 degrees of twist in 6 feet. It's really even twist. Don't even think it will make good garden stakes. What are the chances that it will warp in the right direction ;D The bark came off nice though.
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My wife was Googling Pacific Dogwood and found that the Act that protected it was repealed in 2002 ;D ;D ;D. Some municipalities still protect it but I'm not in a municipality. Cut, cut cut
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Red osier is not bow wood. :)
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Bummer about the red osier being twisted, but it sounds like you now have plenty of other options. I hope to see some nice dogwood bows from you later on! Josh
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My wife was Googling Pacific Dogwood and found that the Act that protected it was repealed in 2002 ;D ;D ;D. Some municipalities still protect it but I'm not in a municipality. Cut, cut cut
Do you have the link for that, I would like to read it..
thanks
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I thought you might ;)
http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/00_96100REP_01
You'll get more if you Google "Dogwood, Rhododendron and Trillium
Protection Act"
The only problem I see is that we will be the only two that know this and if we get caught cutting a dogwood we'll get beat all to hell by little old ladies wielding umbrellas
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Here's my choice for "propeller of the week"
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Holy smokes! :o
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Oh my! Don, if it wouldn't cost so much for shipping, I'd be tempted to try and trade you out of that. Osage outlaw asked me what next years classic bow was gonna be. Wouldn't that be a dandy! I like to show up in TN with a unique bow every year and that would be unique if it could be tamed. But alas, shipping is just plain too much. Josh
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So, this isn't firewood? Would you try to take the twist out by steaming? It's going to have to season for a long time. Maybe in a few years I could take shot at it. There are two although the other has a couple of big knots. I'll seal them up and put them away. I'm just starting to read the wood bending chapter in TBB2.
Don
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Don...there's challenging pieces of wood and there's wood that only a crazy man would tackle. That one is strongly in the crazy man camp! However, if it was mine, I would season it shellac it and steam it. All the while knowing that the odds of getting that straight enough to make a bow are slim to none. With that much twist, it will more than likely split through and through before you get it straight. I just want to make sure that I don't mislead you into thinking that piece shows a lot of promise. That would be very difficult at best. Josh
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That would be firewood for me. I'm crazy, but I ain't that crazy.
Gabe