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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Fred Arnold on September 04, 2013, 02:40:57 pm

Title: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: Fred Arnold on September 04, 2013, 02:40:57 pm
I planted some osage seeds early spring after stratifying them in the fridge over the winter. Here's a pic of some of the osage and an unknown healthy culprit in the background. The leaves don't resemble anything in close vicinity to where I started the plants outdoors. Can anyone tell from the pics what it is?

 I have determined that it isn't black walnut, elm, mulberry, and don't believe it to be hackberry. I do have some ash on the property but not an abundance.  All of the seeds looked the same so I'm almost positive it's something that flew in and settled with the container of the osage seedlings.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 04, 2013, 02:42:43 pm
Cottonwood
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Post by: Stoker on September 04, 2013, 02:51:54 pm
Cottonwood
X2
Leroy
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: Fred Arnold on September 04, 2013, 02:52:36 pm
Well hell, maybe I'll find a use for cottonwood. :laugh: I've got a monster down by the creek that has a branch bigger than most of the trees on the property and surprised there isn't more of it out here.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 04, 2013, 02:58:00 pm
That pic doesn't look so much like cottonwood. Looks like red oak.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: autologus on September 04, 2013, 05:13:38 pm
Definitely ain't Red Oak.

Grady
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Post by: bubbles on September 04, 2013, 09:43:35 pm
The picture of the seedling looks to be cottonwood or a poplar of some kind - the picture of the full tree doesn't look like cottonwood - I'd be inclined to agree with Pearl drums on the red oak, but I'd need to see a close up of the buds
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Post by: wildman on September 04, 2013, 10:23:26 pm
Cottonwood lots of them along river here
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Post by: mullet on September 04, 2013, 11:09:43 pm
I saw two Osage, I thought? :(
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Post by: Poggins on September 04, 2013, 11:36:37 pm
The seedling is cottonwood and the tree is cottonwood ( twisted and deformed from years of wind and weather).
I bet you find a lot of morels under it.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 04, 2013, 11:40:50 pm
I grew up where cottonwood is nearly the only tree to be found and I got no morels.


Your seedling is definitely cottonwood. 
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: Fred Arnold on September 05, 2013, 12:20:22 am
Lots of cottonwood down on the river and shrooms but not many cottonwoods on the creek up here and never have found a morel.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: Poggins on September 05, 2013, 02:25:42 am
Lots of cottonwood here in Oklahoma and just one if the trees I look for when mushrooms are out .
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Post by: Dalton Knapper on September 05, 2013, 11:24:02 am
I feel like rambling....

Cottonwood was historically used in mines for support beams. The reason being that when cottonwood is stressed it makes rather loud popping noises before it breaks. That would give the miners at least some warning when timbers were about to give way.

Another interesting cottonwood story involves the second Battle of Adobe Walls (June, 1874) where some 700 Comanche and Kiowas led by Quanah Parker and others lead an early morning attack on about 28 or so Buffalo hunters in the Texas Panhandle. What saved the buffalo hunters was a cottonwood support beam cracking and waking up everyone - that and the hunters were armed with Sharps 50 cals - it's a long story and one worth reading about.

Hollow cottonwood logs were used by American Indians to make drums, masks, Kachinas and other carved items - it carves well and is still being used today.

So, that's what I have to say about cottonwood.
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Post by: smoky#1 on September 06, 2013, 01:36:49 am
Cottonwood
x3
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Post by: bowtarist on September 06, 2013, 02:07:13 pm
Yup, cottonwood seedling. What's the leaf litter on the ground around the big tree look like? dp
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Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on September 06, 2013, 06:52:10 pm
that, my friend, is either cottonwood or Chinese pear.
the leaves are nigh on identical, and I have seen both in person many, many times. cottonwood cause its in the arboretum nearby.
Chinese pear is a highly invasive species and a very popular shade tree.
I have personally ripped out almost an entire acre of chinese pear seedlings about 1-2" in diam. its nasty work.
that is definitly NOT red oak- red oak has oak-shaped leaves.
(http://www.belleville.k12.wi.us/bhs/pathways/images/red_oak_seedling.jpeg)
that is red oak.
Title: Re: Can you identify this seedling?
Post by: crooketarrow on September 07, 2013, 12:36:38 am
 The seeding looks like our SCYAMORE. I don't know what the tree is. It's not sycamore tree.
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Post by: wapiti1997 on September 12, 2013, 04:10:12 pm
It is 100% cottonwood.. a wind blown seed...
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Post by: bubbles on October 10, 2013, 11:52:25 pm
I think the red oak was in reference to the full tree which did not have leaves,  not the seedling.
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Post by: bobnewboy on October 11, 2013, 10:02:29 am
If you were in the UK, I would say its almost certainly Poplar.  Perhaps with a very outside chance of being Silver Birch.   :)