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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: dwardo on September 17, 2013, 05:09:50 pm

Title: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: dwardo on September 17, 2013, 05:09:50 pm
Very torn on this. My last yew stave, Sapwood need thinning but its very clean.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/Bow%20making/IMAG3373_zps22cae943.jpg)

About an inch and a half wide all the way,

Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Bryce on September 17, 2013, 05:11:59 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: huisme on September 17, 2013, 05:20:33 pm
+1
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Blaflair2 on September 17, 2013, 06:14:44 pm
I'd find two billets. That's a nice stave.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: rps3 on September 17, 2013, 06:27:08 pm
I wouldnt cut it.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Fred Arnold on September 17, 2013, 06:50:40 pm
Nope!! A good set of billets are easier to find and cheaper than a nice full stave like that one.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: bubby on September 17, 2013, 07:13:39 pm
man it's your stave if ya want a two pc cut it, bub
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Eric Garza on September 17, 2013, 08:04:04 pm
Heck no! I'd start looking for some well seasoned billets. They should be easy to find, and much less expensive than a replacement stave of the same caliber.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 17, 2013, 08:09:50 pm
a good stave like that costs around 150.00 two good billets run about 60.00. But yes you can cut it if you want.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: 4dog on September 17, 2013, 08:53:22 pm
Well the question was "could you", not  Would you, or even ,Should you. Lol
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Blaflair2 on September 17, 2013, 08:55:40 pm
How about I buy two billets and trade ya ;0)
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: CherokeeKC on September 17, 2013, 09:21:43 pm
Heck no.  Thats just bad economics lol. 
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: adb on September 17, 2013, 09:30:02 pm
Nope!! A good set of billets are easier to find and cheaper than a nice full stave like that one.

+1
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: kevinsmith5 on September 17, 2013, 11:34:13 pm
No way
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: mikekeswick on September 18, 2013, 02:39:39 am
I could but I probably wouldn't!
I can get you some billets if you want.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: sleek on September 18, 2013, 03:30:08 am
I would find somebody with 4 billets and swap em for that one stave. then you get two take downs.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Jodocus on September 18, 2013, 03:47:40 am
NO!!  :o

There's at least 10 times as many pieces that make billets as there are pieces that make staves.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: dwardo on September 18, 2013, 09:51:51 am
Thanks guys. Full length yew elb it will be.
 I think I just needed assurance that it would be a waste, even though its the perfect size :(

Might take you up on that Mike if I cant find some my self.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: mikekeswick on September 18, 2013, 09:53:11 am
Thanks guys. Full length yew elb it will be.
 I think I just needed assurance that it would be a waste, even though its the perfect size :(

Might take you up on that Mike if I cant find some my self.

No problems, plenty of yew (billets ;))round here!
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 18, 2013, 09:55:03 am
Its never a waste if make what you truly want in the end.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: 4dog on September 18, 2013, 10:34:21 am
Way to run against the herd Pearl. You wouldnt split that stave unless you had a once in a million hunt and you HAD to use a takedown or you couldnt go ,i get what your saying but really.? Lol
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 18, 2013, 10:44:04 am
Really. If selling staves isn't your intent then what's the difference if he cuts it and gets the bow he wants from that wood. The value of billets compared to staves is nothing. It seems the folks that wouldn't cut it are concerned of its value. It has no value if its not being sold and he didn't buy it to begin with. Its value lies in the bow he wants from it.
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: 4dog on September 18, 2013, 11:09:54 am
Didnt read that into it (value uncut as opposed to cut) its a near perfect stave,if ya cut into billets and messit up youve lost alot, just make it into a bow as is and mess it up, you might just salvage a good looking weaker bow,, thats all i was getting at. Not trolling at all. O:)
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: danny f on September 18, 2013, 01:45:25 pm
i would just make the bow you want to make from it. either way whether its one single piece or a takedown  your gona end up with a bow.   :)
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: WillS on September 18, 2013, 03:42:03 pm
I'd leave it full length.  My question is, what makes you think the sapwood needs thinning? Looks perfect to me.  I wouldn't risk creating a weakness by reducing sapwood that's already as thin as that.  Can't be more than 1/2" can it?
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Gus on September 18, 2013, 03:50:39 pm
Send me that $200-$250 Yew stave and I'll send you a $60 set of Yew billets for your take down.
Heck I'll even pay shipping both ways...

 >:D

-gus
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 18, 2013, 05:48:52 pm
Where do you shop Gus? Hahahaha
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: bubby on September 18, 2013, 06:22:16 pm
man it's your stave if ya want a two pc cut it, bub



this seems to have turned into a mater of what it is worth if you had to buy it, worth is subjective to whoever has possesion of an object, if its yours and you really want to make it a t/d then its worth it, it is just a pc of wood, a very nice pc of wood but still just wood
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: BowSlayer on September 18, 2013, 06:44:23 pm
Nope!! A good set of billets are easier to find and cheaper than a nice full stave like that one.

+1,000

don't cut it, use billits. :laugh:
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: Gus on September 18, 2013, 07:42:17 pm
Where do you shop Gus? Hahahaha

I forget the name of the outfit up northwest... Online.
Their Primo Mary Rose style staves started at $225 and went up.
Their seconds were $40 and up...

-Gus
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: gianluca100 on September 19, 2013, 04:36:10 am
personally I wouldn't cut it. Such a nice, long yew stave is just too nice, regardless of the $-value.
but that's just me. you do what you feel best  :)

ciao,
gian-luca
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: dwardo on September 19, 2013, 06:37:21 am
I'd leave it full length.  My question is, what makes you think the sapwood needs thinning? Looks perfect to me.  I wouldn't risk creating a weakness by reducing sapwood that's already as thin as that.  Can't be more than 1/2" can it?

The picture is a little miss-leading the sapwood is over 3/4 inch thick in most places. Maybe warbow kind of weights would leave me with plenty of heartwood but at my kind of weight I would end up with just sapwood. Yew sapwood is one of those where you dont "have to" follow one ring, although I will try my best.

Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: WillS on September 19, 2013, 07:13:58 am
Gotcha.  Yeah I agree with you if that's the case! Good luck with whatever you choose to do with it!
Title: Re: Could you cut this in half just because you want a take down?
Post by: CherokeeKC on September 19, 2013, 08:04:05 am
I tried to think of a good analogy for this question.  Picture this scenario:  You are a primitive man living in an area where there are very few arrow material long enough without sharp bends that will not straighten.  You are in the process of making a basket of some sort using material about the same diameter of an arrow for the structure.  You only need a 15" piece for the basket.  Your walking and happen upon a rare shoot shaft that is 30" long and straight.  Do you think this guy would cut arrow in half because he wants a basket?  I think he will make an arrow out of that shaft and find more of the common 15" sticks for his basket.

lol i tried :)