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Title: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 01, 2013, 03:59:36 pm
I know this is a non political forum.  My rant is non political in nature, but the government is pissing me off!  Due to the shutdown, my hunt that has been planned for months has now been cancelled.  The area we were going to hunt is owned by USDA and ran by the US Forestry Department.  Thousands of acres of prime public hunting and camping is now off limits.  Their websites and phones are all blaring messages about blah, blah, .  .  . government shutdown, blah, blah, blah.  What the heck! I just want to hunt and get away from the rat race for a week and enjoy some peace and quiet admiring God's creations and possibly making meat with a self bow.  And now they have taken that away.  What I would give to own private hunting property!!  OK, I assumed the rant would make me feel better, well, think again.  The more I think about it, the madder I get.  Dammit.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 01, 2013, 04:14:39 pm
That does stink Greg, sorry you lost out on your hunt, at least for now anyway. Being a non news watching/reading guy, I had no clue about this "shut down" until an hour ago. A co-worker enlightened me.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Dalton Knapper on October 01, 2013, 04:23:37 pm
A lot of people overlook the importance of our Federal lands. Without them, hunting would be a pleasure for the wealthy and land invested, as it is now in most of Europe.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: PrimitiveTim on October 01, 2013, 04:35:19 pm
no enforcement then right?
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 01, 2013, 04:41:48 pm
no enforcement then right?
I hadnt thought about it that way.  Hmm .  .  . >:D
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Ed Brooks on October 01, 2013, 05:01:52 pm
no enforcement then right?

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that, No tag, no technicality, no license no limit.    ::) Good luck getting back into your hunting grounds. Ed 
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gus on October 01, 2013, 05:36:50 pm
Heck I say Poop on the Gooberment!
I don't care about Political Persuasion.

Being as I was Raised by Pirates, I will not allow their BS interfere with my life any more than absolutely necessary.

Not to say that I don't abide by Fair Hunting Practices and Bag and Length Limits.
I follow them because I choose to, not because I have to.

The bottom line is that I will not stop hunting on PUBLIC Lands due to a Gooberment Idiocy.
Will they Not Collect Taxes from me for the days they are closed?

They can Kiss my Grits.
I'm going Hunting.

-gus
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Dalton Knapper on October 01, 2013, 05:52:54 pm
"With the federal government locked in self-afflicted paralysis as of midnight, all 561 national wildlife refuges and 368 national parks are now closed to the public. However, nearly all of the country’s 155 national forests and 2,400 U.S. Army Corps of Engineers recreation areas, as well as vast sprawls of lands managed by the BLM and other federal agencies, remain accessible and available for hunting and fishing."

Source:http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/open-country/2013/10/government-shutdown-restricts-hunting-national-wildlife-refuges-other-fed (http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/open-country/2013/10/government-shutdown-restricts-hunting-national-wildlife-refuges-other-fed)

I reckon if there is no gate and you don't expect any services, you are free to hunt and fish away. I would suspect that their law enforcement personnel are considered necessary, so poachers beware.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: wildman on October 01, 2013, 10:38:13 pm
Reminds me of a quote from the movie Legends of The Falls. I would go!
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: TRACY on October 01, 2013, 10:47:27 pm
no enforcement then right?
I hadnt thought about it that way.  Hmm .  .  . >:D

Same situation here in So. Indiana Greg with the Hoosier National. Archery opened up today and not sure what will be happening on Federal lands. My first thought was who is going to tell me it's closed? I'm planning on camping and hunting over there all next week while school is on fall break. May have to go to plan B.

Tracy
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Pappy on October 02, 2013, 07:26:39 am
Greg I would do like we did a few years back at LBL when they closed it for snow.
We went anyway,they caught us a few days into the hunt,seen what we were hunting with and said what the heck,don't call us if you get stuck or stranded. We carried on our hunting and told them we wouldn't have called them anyway,we know how to take care of ourselves.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 02, 2013, 07:55:18 am
I'm leaning that way Pappy. It's just that it's a 5.5 hour drive from here and we have friends from Kentucky going as well. I'm gonna contact TWRA today and see what they say.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: BowEd on October 02, 2013, 08:56:42 am
You bet Go for it Gsulfridge.Pretty good chance of you getting some hunting in.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: blackhawk on October 02, 2013, 09:21:27 am
As a former anarchists I have a lot to say,but I'll keep my mouth shut...  >:(  :-X ....that just sucks and is retarded
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Ozzy on October 02, 2013, 09:27:19 am
The way I see it its are land not the governments I say go for it >:D
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 02, 2013, 10:18:20 am
TWRA just updated their website and stated that the lands were still open for hiking, hunting, and camping. Just the government ran welcome centers and campgrounds are closed. Whoopie!!! The hunt is back on now. May have to bathe in the lake instead of at a campground shower house, but hey, that's more primitive anyway!
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Marks on October 02, 2013, 10:42:24 am
TWRA just updated their website and stated that the lands were still open for hiking, hunting, and camping. Just the government ran welcome centers and campgrounds are closed. Whoopie!!! The hunt is back on now. May have to bathe in the lake instead of at a campground shower house, but hey, that's more primitive anyway!

Could you post a link to that message?
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 02, 2013, 10:50:37 am
Not sure how to post the link, but go to state.tn.us/twra/ and click on the "newsroom" tab on the left side of the page.  The top headline mentions it. Click "more" for all the details.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Wolf Watcher on October 02, 2013, 10:56:09 am
Yesterday was the opening day for bull elk rifle hunting.  Where we live in Wyoming the main access road goes through the ranch to BLM and National Forest lands.  From all the traffic we have seen and the shots we have heard I know the hunt is still on.  The BLM office was closed and Yellowstone Park and all of Wyoming's state parks are closed.  Those parks are blood suckers for use of public lands.  The government personal will just not be there!  I say go for it!  I hope this message is not considered off limits here, but we will need to take a stand to assure our hunting rights.  Joe
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 02, 2013, 11:03:45 am
TWRA just updated their website and stated that the lands were still open for hiking, hunting, and camping. Just the government ran welcome centers and campgrounds are closed. Whoopie!!! The hunt is back on now. May have to bathe in the lake instead of at a campground shower house, but hey, that's more primitive anyway!
Just to clarify, this was for the Land Between the Lakes area only.  It is ran by USDA, Division of Forestry.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: YosemiteBen on October 02, 2013, 05:25:52 pm
Well Fellers and Ladies -

As I am a Park Ranger, this shut sown has turned off my paycheck and since my wife is on Disability I imagine that we won't see her check or my sons dependent check either! Will be stretching dollars till this blows over. I was tempted to take a turkey in my neighbors yard this morning but they were too close to his house. Hopefully this BS will end soon.
Ben
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: wildman on October 02, 2013, 07:38:12 pm
Only thing with LBL you have to have back country camping permit, of course if you have it no biggie, and like everyone mentioned who is gonna nab ya? >:D
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: Gsulfridge on October 02, 2013, 09:01:10 pm
You can buy your permits for LBL at Walmart tho, right? I've been going out there for years (since the 90s) TWRA says it's open. That's all I need to know. Game on!
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: 4dog on October 03, 2013, 11:57:07 am
Not trolling ,, but what does a former anarchist call oneself??   :laugh:
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: autologus on October 03, 2013, 12:12:22 pm
Not trolling ,, but what does a former anarchist call oneself??   :laugh:

A parolee.

Grady
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: wildman on October 03, 2013, 07:40:39 pm
Just saw on the news (WPSD out of Paducah) no Outhouses gates shut and they are kicking old folk out of LBL campgrounds. They did say if you wanted to rough it your on your own. GO FOR IT! May be alot more walking locking lots of gates.
Title: Re: Govment Shutdown just cancelled my hunt
Post by: 4dog on October 03, 2013, 08:32:55 pm
Not trolling ,, but what does a former anarchist call oneself??   :laugh:

A parolee.

Grady

damn funny stuff right there!!!!