Please do pearly...my head statement was meant to be a " please state your opinion once" and if someone didn't like it then please don't quote them and try to debate it so no one would be arguing or have to defend there own "opinion"... cus there is no right or wrong opinion or answers here...I know this could get sticky so that why I stated such comments so it doesn't get out of hand....and maybe it'll actually be constructive and helpful to this site and the magazine...its more of a please state your opinion poll n that's it....no more. Obviously something isn't working and IMHO something needs done to help it out...
This will be interesting. I wont type my reasons, you know them. I don't feel like arguing or defending myself today...;)
I don't feel like my bows would be able to compete as I don't have the equipment to measure draw weight and I'm not in this to compete with others, but to hone my own skills in the most primitive way I can. It's hard to compete when you use only natural materials and hand tools to make your bows. It would be difficult to glue on snapping turtle tails with natural glues. lol that was an awesome bow though.
Not trying to start a heated debate between folks here,so just please state your opinion why and no quoting folks and trying to disagree etc etc....I just wanna know some why's and folks honest opinion ...and let's try to keep this civil and positively constructive
I see two entries this month for each category ....sorry to say(n no offense to the entrants) but that's just lame...why? What's wrong with bom? Why don't folks enter there bows? Please answer those questions in your own opinion....
I think the new rule has obviously backfired and isn't working...honestly I didn't like the change back then,and still haven't changed my mind...it has nothing to do with having a subscription or not...there is just so many other awesome bows out there that get posted that never get entered,and it just doesn't seem like a fair competition,and seeing all the bows that got posted on display...I understand the reasons why they changed the rules,and you don't have to shout any of that propaganda to me...I understand why...
I'd just like to see it the way it was before and a real competition again instead of a select few
Not trying to start a heated debate between folks here,so just please state your opinion why and no quoting folks and trying to disagree etc etc....I just wanna know some why's and folks honest opinion ...and let's try to keep this civil and positively constructive
I see two entries this month for each category ....sorry to say(n no offense to the entrants) but that's just lame...why? What's wrong with bom? Why don't folks enter there bows? Please answer those questions in your own opinion....
I think the new rule has obviously backfired and isn't working...honestly I didn't like the change back then,and still haven't changed my mind...it has nothing to do with having a subscription or not...there is just so many other awesome bows out there that get posted that never get entered,and it just doesn't seem like a fair competition,and seeing all the bows that got posted on display...I understand the reasons why they changed the rules,and you don't have to shout any of that propaganda to me...I understand why...
I'd just like to see it the way it was before and a real competition again instead of a select few
When was the last time you entered a bow Boardhawk?
I dropped my subscription about ten years ago. The magizine changed and started a bunch of Japan and Korea bows. Not interesteted in it anymore. The old mag was a lot better back then.
again just one mans opinion .....
but, adb....I get the electronic version of the mag and have had no trouble with it.. I believe I joined for three years for 25 bucks at the classic and if you couldn't make the classic they carried the opportunity for a few months on line ... 25 bucks for three years is unbelievable, you must have a better excuse??
I agree with Pat B it's a small price to pay for what you can get out of it even if you don't participate completely in all. If PA is not supported it will not be around to even read this site. many sites don't even let you read without being a member. A big thanks to PA for that.
Just one mans opinion,
DBar
I don't know where to begin on this... some random thoughts:
I too have had a few issues that went missing in the past, but I took advantage of that 3 year e-mag deal. Lost issues are not a problem now. I think regardless of the magazine content (I almost always find something of interest in it) that is a small price to pay to support this forum that we all love.
As for BOM being a "beauty contest", I don't think that is necessarily true. In the few years I have been here I have seen winners that look like they were carved with rocks and dragged through the coals. Everyone has their own criteria for what they consider a worthy bow. My criteria change all the time. Sometimes I will vote for the underdog, if I feel like they really pushed themselves. Sometimes I will vote for a bow that looks like it's been banged around for 60 years. Sometimes I vote strictly on a tiller that appeals to my eye. Sometimes I vote for "artsy" bows. I'm not ashamed of that. For anyone who does not vote simply because they don't like the trend of the voting results, you are not helping your cause. If anything it should motivate you even more to make your vote count.
I've been around here long enough to see the difference after the "subscription rule" took effect. I see both sides of the argument. But I also know that just putting the contest together each month takes a lot of time from several people. These people volunteer their time. Organizing the contest for say 10 people that care about the magazine (and thus this forum) is more rewarding than organizing it for 50-80 people who can't be bothered to show some support.
I'm with Parnell. I want to be judged against my peers, not A peer ;) I'd like to see more entries, but I don't really know what the solution is. Some of you guys take this "contest" way too seriously. Lighten up, and VOTE! 8)
I typically dont enter anymore because, while I do make some fancy bows, I really would rather see my simple, elegant bows get voted on, but I know by popular demand that they wont get more than 2-5 votes at most.
As Pat and Pappy said, buying the mag from a news stand does very little to support PA.
It's been many years since I submitted a bow. One of the reasons I stopped is that there was too much rigging of the votes, some people would get their friends to register an account and vote for them, I don't have a lot of friends so I couldn't compete with that one :). Really though, winning using those methods is not really winning IMO.
the only problem is anyone that would do that to win, it doesn't bother them a bit to win like that
Please explain to me how buying the mag off the news stand doesn't support it? I'm being sincere. Does the publisher not receive revenue from sales?
if Blackhawk is running out of room he can allways send one out west >:D
rich for what it's worth I have great respect for you personally, and all your work, period, I for one don't believe everything I read on the interweb
Read this whole thing and there's probably a million snappy come-backs, but with the current tone is seems the only answer is to throw out all the low-life non-subscribers LIKE ME, and solve all your problems. The only down side is after you do, you will have to start eating your own.
For what it's worth, I was a subscriber prior to that incident.
Rich Rousseau
Half Eye
Read this whole thing and there's probably a million snappy come-backs, but with the current tone is seems the only answer is to throw out all the low-life non-subscribers LIKE ME, and solve all your problems. The only down side is after you do, you will have to start eating your own.
For what it's worth, I was a subscriber Rich Rousseau
Half Eye
Man I usually refrain from these type of discussions but I feel the need this time. Too often there are bows posted on the bow forum that will only get just a few hits. There are some good bows by a lot of people. Now don't get all worked up Chris (Blackhawk) 'cause I am only using you as an example. If Chris posted a sapling with a piece of clothesline rope for a string it would get 5-6 pages of hits. Too many times a subjective "competition" will only be a popularity contest. Again Chris no hard feelings bud, I could have used other names to make an example but I am sure you have the proper thickness of skin ;)
Man I usually refrain from these type of discussions but I feel the need this time. Too often there are bows posted on the bow forum that will only get just a few hits. There are some good bows by a lot of people. Now don't get all worked up Chris (Blackhawk) 'cause I am only using you as an example. If Chris posted a sapling with a piece of clothesline rope for a string it would get 5-6 pages of hits. Too many times a subjective "competition" will only be a popularity contest. Again Chris no hard feelings bud, I could have used other names to make an example but I am sure you have the proper thickness of skin ;)
Totally agree Greg. Kinda like the tournament fishing comment. Fished a few myself. Many I had little chance of winning, but heck, I was going fishing anyway. Why not throw a little in the Calcutta and make it interesting? Same with BOM as far as I see it. I built bows before the internet, so few people ever saw them or ever would see them. Made them anyway. I feel like my bows are better now in many ways than they were before I joined PA. Having said that, I'm competing in BOM with guys who are world class. No shame in playing in that arena regardless of where you finish. Join up and put 'em in. I think you'll be glad you did. Can't strike out if you never step up to the plate, but your chances of being cheered by the fans falls to near zero.
Wabbit season! Duck season! Wabbit season!