Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BOWMAN53 on January 29, 2014, 07:03:24 pm
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i have a 56" mullberry stave that i got from Bubby(thanks again buddy) and i have no idea what to do with it. i can post some pics of it later when i get home. im taking it down a few rings so im closer to the heart wood. i know i want it to be a stiff handle but after that i have no idea what to do with it.
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Well, and 56" inches and a requirement for a stiff handle, I'd start by saying keep it as wide as possible so you have enough wood to share the work. At that length, would you possibly be open to a set of spliced on Sayahs or some such?
OneBow
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Unless you plan to sinew it or you have a 23" or shorter draw, I would forget about the stiff handle bit. What I would do would depend on the stave, draw length and weight. Need more info and some pics please kind sir. Josh
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sorry, forgot that part, 50-60# @26. sinew backing is not completely out of the question.
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How much crown? Any character to work around? I'm thinking a widened version of one of Osage outlaws sinew backed Osage beauties. How wide would depend on the density of the stave as well as the crown and character. Clint's design is pretty sweet. Josh
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its got a medium crown, not high but not low. i like the one clint did, that was one sweet bow. only reason im leaning away from sinew backing is because i dont have any and i dont want to wait to get a bow out of this stave lol.
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In that case, I would do something like this.. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,28346 . You'll have the handle bending slightly but you can build it up with cork or leather after its tillered and it will barely be noticed. The mulberry I have around home works beautiful in this design. Josh
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thats a sweet lil bow, how wide is it?
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i forgot to mention, there is some charactor, its got some wavyness to it.
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Its been a while since I made one, but I'm about 90% sure that its 2 1/4" at the fades and about an inch and a half at the handle. There's a trick to tillering the fades on one of these. If you decide to go with this design, I'll be happy to help all I can. You'll have to decide whether or not the character is to much though. Pics are good, but it doesn't compare to holding the stave in your hands and eyeballing it up close. Josh
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with the waves in it idk if decrowning would be a good idea. maybe i can keep the width by making the belly slightly concaved?
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Mulberry is much better in tension than walnut. No need to decrown. If width is the problem, then a slight hollow limb will do the job. Meaning that you would maintain an even thickness across the width of the limb. Ive never made an extreme HLD like simson does, but I have used the constant thickness to adjust for character. Josh
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(http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a631/jamesbowyer89/20140129_183843_zps3nzjyukh.jpg) (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/jamesbowyer89/media/20140129_183843_zps3nzjyukh.jpg.html)
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I have made a couple (and broke a couple others) of mulberry bows - on all of mine I used all heartwood. Are you planning on using some sapwood? Anyone make with the sapwood? Just curious how it compares.
All of the mulberry I have has lots of little "rows" of pin knots that I had to work around - nasty little buggers to deal with. Good luck with it - lookin forward to seeing your work!
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Heck I would just make a bow out of it.
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I know you said stiff handle, and I'm sure it's doable, but that stave looks to me like it's ready to be a sweet bendy handle in pretty short order. A bit more dicey on a stiff handle.
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Make whatever it allows Jordo. If it makes a killer 23" draw bow, make it 23". I learned to quit forcing my spec's on every stave I touch. Rather, grab a stave that suits my intended spec's. Granted I have a nice stash of staves to choose from.
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Just Curious, but has anyone used mulberry as the belly lam in a tri-lam.
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Words of wisdom, PD. Good advice.
Let the stave determine the design.
Even a bend in the handle design is pushing it for that length of stave with a sapwood back.
When I make a bow, I like to set myself up for success. I don't make as many as I used to now that I am officially an old man. When I make I want to end up with a bow.
I'd at the very least back it with rawhide and let the handle bend.
Just thought I'd give my $ 0.02.
Jawge
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thanks for the advice guys. me and bubby were talking last night and decided to make it a mild R/D bendy handle with pyramid limbs
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Sounds like a plan to me! Looking forward to seeing how it turns out! Josh
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http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,27146.msg363386.html#msg363386
im thinking this is the design im going for just R/D