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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: WoodBenderDW on February 01, 2014, 06:14:05 pm

Title: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: WoodBenderDW on February 01, 2014, 06:14:05 pm
Feel free to move this if it is in the wrong section.  As much as it does not really show much as far as his methods go, but this is awesome to see a hero to many of us making his own equipment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1iQhBhngD8
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on February 01, 2014, 06:32:33 pm
I wonder if ol' Howard would be embarrassed by how we hold him up as such a holy prophet?

Side note: On Turner Classic Movies today there was a movie short of Howard Hill sailing on the coast of Mexico to hunt marlin with a bow.  They started with him shooting flying fish off the deck of the boat.  Imagine that!  Archery hunting, fishing, and wingshooting ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Once they collected a few flying fish, they used them as teasers behind the boat to draw in the marlin.  When the marlin came within range, he hit them with a modified fishing arrow with a harpoon style head.  He shot two of them in pretty quick succession and reeled them in on conventional saltwater tackle.

Then for the third one, he arrowed it and the "boy" on board took over fighting the fish from a small rowboat.  They portrayed the marlin as an evil killing machine bent on dealing death to any that crosses their path.  The fellow in the rowboat handling the oars stands up to smack the charging marlin on the head and falls in as the marlin pierces the rowboat.  Just before this you see the marling scooting thru the water at high speed on it's side.  The rowboat is suspiciously sliding sideways thru the water as well.

They apparently wanted to make a really cool clip, so they made break-away sides on the boat so that they could pull the marlin thru.  It's laughable special effects, even though the rest of the movie short was pretty interesting.  The slow-mo shots of Howard hitting a flying fish about the size of a skinny 10" trout is pretty flipping cool!
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on February 01, 2014, 06:53:32 pm
Nice.  The commentator should have educated himself first though.  Howard did not use a fish tail splice but a W splice instead.
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: nclonghunter on February 01, 2014, 06:57:59 pm
Very interesting...they referred to his bow as being a modern bow...

Could you imagine even suggesting shooting an apple on someone's head these days.....maybe an Osage ball but not an apple.
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: country on February 01, 2014, 07:20:06 pm
He made 110 lb bow look like a 45 :o
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: Ink on February 01, 2014, 09:09:04 pm
250 FPS.......dang, musta been shooting 500 grain arrows with that 110# bow
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: tallpine on February 01, 2014, 10:31:53 pm
Way cool, thanks for sharing. I like his tillering tree
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: JackCrafty on February 01, 2014, 11:17:42 pm
Watched it with amazement.  Felt kinda funny watching the "stunt" shots, though.  I don't know if I would ever shoot the bow backwards between the legs.... although the subject came up recently about hunting deer in unusual ways.  I dunno, I might try it. 
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: lostarrow on February 01, 2014, 11:26:22 pm
Dave , did you see the other clip that was posted on here a while ago with the automatic tillering machine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXWRW1CJXYY
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: WoodBenderDW on February 01, 2014, 11:49:10 pm
Quick poll.  How many other people have a tillering machine like that?  lol
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: 4dog on February 01, 2014, 11:53:43 pm
dont have a tillering machine lile that..but perfectly willing to try to shoot an apple ,horse or granny smith,,,off one of your heads if youll just stand still.    O:)
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: bow101 on February 02, 2014, 12:28:26 am
Fantastic,  he sure did like his heavy weight bows. 
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: Del the cat on February 02, 2014, 05:39:29 am
Some interesting snippets there. Looks like he glued in a lot of back set on those billets.
And the horizontal tiller rig  :o ???
Del
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on February 02, 2014, 11:50:53 am
I think that machine is nothing but cheating, pure and simple.  Besides, I don't have room to plug in anything else now that I have a 3D printer set up to make my bows. 
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: Carson (CMB) on February 02, 2014, 10:41:14 pm
First scene with Howard at about 30 secs and then again about 5:20...I noticed he strung the bow push-pull method by gripping the bow above the handle.  I know that question has come up on here before regarding lower limb set. 
Title: Re: Howard Hill making a bow
Post by: lostarrow on February 02, 2014, 11:01:03 pm
I think that machine is nothing but cheating, pure and simple.  Besides, I don't have room to plug in anything else now that I have a 3D printer set up to make my bows.

 Peddle power JW! Let's keep it primitive. ;) Are you using organic plastic in that 3D printer and running it off solar power?
  You slay me. ;D