Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: 4dog on February 25, 2014, 10:53:43 am
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what is the name of the box vice that stands on a pole??
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Stave press
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lol i have tried every name i could think of for this...cept that one!!! lol thanks
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Got me a handmade charmer from a friend. It took first place from my Shinto for the best tool in my shop.
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got my brother in law wrkn on one...he welds...i do not...any ideas on steel thickness for box and plate just to get me started...oh and the press plate??? thanks
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Looks to be 3/8" to me. 1/4" might work to.
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dang dude...you are johnny on the spot...whatcha doin?? just sittin around waitin on questions for this...lmbo??!!!
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pearly is always good for quick info
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pearly is always good for quick info
Thought you were gonna say pearly is always good for a quickie :o
Yup no better vice out there that i know for bow making than a stave press design type vice
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lmao i nearly did but then i reread it. idk drummer boy that well
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Its been sloooooow at work lately, so Im always on here poking around be my usual sarcastic northern azz.
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Maybe u need to move closer jordo and ya would :laugh:
There is one thing you need to be careful with these....and I've seen a home made one,and the one that was patented have a problem....but I'm almost positive it was due to too much operator error...there's a ball that allows the plate to swivel and be on angle,and the receiving end of those had cracked n failed....the reason for this is because people are used to a common vice and cranking it as tight as they can...well the physics of this design is more friction held and it doesn't need to be cranked down as tight as a standard bench top vice does..it doesn't take much to hold the wood...and secondly you MUST use a similar height wood wedge to keep the plate parallel and not on a severe angle...if you don't that ball will crush the wall of the receiving end on the plate and the plate will end up coming off eventually...I've had mine for awhile now and have used it properly and its still like new to this day..I take mine to shoots and let others use it as well..I just make sure to educate them on the proper use of one so they don't ignorantly and naively wear that piece of hardware down..so if used right they are a great thing..but that's the key to using them correctly...
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I've had it in the back of my mind to make one. I was wondering about the size. The commercial ones look like they are about 6" square. Is there a reason to make it this big? I don't even think I could lift a stave that big. :P I was thinking more in the 3-4" size. I'm going to pick up some thrown tire thread of the highway for the jaw liners or do you think that might leave a mark?
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thanks BH very good info!
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I made 3-4 of these
I got the 6 in square tubing as a drop from a local steel supplier.
Kevin
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you mean the box entirely???
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i haven't made one of these for staves, but ive made several mini ones that i use for knives and they beat any other knife vice ive tried. i weld a tab about 1"x4" to one side and the bottom so that i can clamp it right side up or on it's side in my bench vice.
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you mean the box entirely???
Im sure 4dog. Kevin is capable of making the whole thing in his sleep!
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ahhhh the hawk master...no doubting him here.. 8)
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4dog
these things are pretty simple to put together.
some hole drilling is required and a little welding
the only thing I used that was fancy was a lathe to turn a groove around the drive screw in order to captivate it so it will turn.
and ya could do the same thing with a grinder.
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What Chris said on the stave press,mine lasted less than a year,messed up
during the Classic, treat it right it should last forever. :) Wedging the plate to keep it somewhat level is important,I even had wedges cut and hung all around the post it was mounted on to use for different size and shape staves,just folks don't take the time to use them or just don't know any better. ??? either way they won't hold up long if miss treated. :)
Pappy
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Hi 4Dog,
Heres another idea a little more organic would be a nice set up outside under a good shade tree
[urlhttp://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,4399.msg61342.html#msg61342][/url]
Chuck
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I still love my Stave Master from Keenan. It is the best, most versatile bow clamping/building device I've ever used.
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I am with you Pat on that,don't use it much,just seem to forget,but you want to set down and work it is really cool piece of equipement. :) Missed him,where has he been ?
Pappy
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Pappy, I sent them an email around Christmas and heard back from Lulyn. She said they were all good but that was it.
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ya see boys the issue for me is ..im not as old as some of ya..and not as young as most of ya...i got back issues and sitting is probably the hardest thing on my back
..wanted a shave bench but thats still sitting...so gonma build a press ,attach it to a cedar log ,and that way, i can stand and shave away.
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Keenan came up with the idea for the Stave Master and his back is probably worse than all of ours put together. Having the back rest really makes the difference.