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Title: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 04:11:26 pm

I just finished this up, rawhide backed buckthorn, 62"ttt and 54#@ 28", stave was a little wonky and I tried to match the reflex that was natural on the bottom limb but it came out twice so I figured it wasn't meant to be, I got the stave from badly bent thanks greg, she shoots nice and smooth and is pretty snappy, thanks for looking, bub(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4469_zpse0ad4e18.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4469_zpse0ad4e18.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4466_zps2d2894d1.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4466_zps2d2894d1.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4465_zps428df19e.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4465_zps428df19e.jpg.html)(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4471_zps3af342b4.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4471_zps3af342b4.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4467_zpsa2c2535d.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4467_zpsa2c2535d.jpg.html)

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: BOWMAN53 on March 21, 2014, 04:14:42 pm

well done old man

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bow101 on March 21, 2014, 04:15:06 pm

Nice clean lines and a great bend Bubb.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: BOWMAN53 on March 21, 2014, 04:18:33 pm

post a close up of the back

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: IdahoMatt on March 21, 2014, 04:19:46 pm

Very cool I dig it a lot Bub.  What did you use for the silencers

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 21, 2014, 04:19:59 pm

Dang bub, that's about as clean of a BT stave as Ive seen. Great looking bow my friend........Im mean, old man.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 04:28:04 pm

I thought I posted this pic, I used the rawhide because I noticed some dings in the back, this stuff is a bear to chase a ring on, stained the whole bow with golden oak stain and then used some walnut stain and a balled up plastic bag to get the pattern on the back, tips are mulberry, d-97 string 10 strands, buckthorn is a pretty wood and easy to work, as long as you're not chasing a ring :laugh: I want to thank greg for the stave she sure was worth the effort (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4468_zps8a19071a.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Cubs%20Football/buckthorn/101_4468_zps8a19071a.jpg.html)

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: BOWMAN53 on March 21, 2014, 04:29:39 pm

awesome man, that stain came out great

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 04:30:28 pm

thanks Jordan
thanks 101
thanks Matt I've been using rabbit for silencers lately
thanks pearl, where did you guys get the idea i'm old ::) :laugh:

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: blackhawk on March 21, 2014, 04:31:31 pm

Sweet bub!!! :)

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: osage outlaw on March 21, 2014, 04:35:59 pm

That is a sharp BT bow.  Great job on it Bubby!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 05:01:07 pm

thanksChris
thanks Clint

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: DuBois on March 21, 2014, 05:02:31 pm

Nice bow old timer!  :D
I am working on a buckthorn with mulberry tips and sinew right now for the trade.
Have many little knots on it?

On another note, you make me sick  >:( >:( >:(

You and your shorts!!

Go another inch of snow this am  :'(

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 05:10:13 pm

thanks dubes it is a pretty snappy wood , it had some pin knots on the back and one knot that opened up about 6" long running endo, I filled it with some epoxie and sawdust
yep it's shorts weather been in the hi 70s to mid 80s for several weeks, if I want to play in the snow its a 60 min drive

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: kleinpm on March 21, 2014, 05:20:19 pm

Nice looking bow. I really like the rawhide back.

Patrick

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: IdahoMatt on March 21, 2014, 05:32:35 pm

How does the rabbit hold up.  I love the look of em

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 05:34:48 pm

holds up pretty good, don't think i'd use them where it rains all the time but heck it never rains here ::)

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: IdahoMatt on March 21, 2014, 05:36:25 pm

I hear ya man it hardly rains up here too.  Just the way I like it.  Gotta love the desert.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Badly Bent on March 21, 2014, 06:33:02 pm

Sweet Bub. That bow may be the best work I've seen done with buckthorn, I know you earned that one chasing those bad rings off the back and man that thing does look a whole lot cleaner than it did when I sent it. You got good draw weight out of it too and I like the braced and drawn profiles, looks like it's a nice shooter. I handed Pearly a similar stave last summer that may have been a sister to that one, we'll have to see what he comes up with when he gets
up the gumption to start chasing rings on it. Of course he's just a youngster compared to you so chasing those rings will be much less work for him. ;)

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: SLIMBOB on March 21, 2014, 06:37:56 pm

Sweet bubby.  Looks like a thumper! (get it, thumper, rabbit?  Aw forget it)  Very nice Sir.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: BOWMAN53 on March 21, 2014, 06:38:27 pm

Quote from: Badly Bent on March 21, 2014, 06:33:02 pm

Sweet Bub. That bow may be the best work I've seen done with buckthorn, I know you earned that one chasing those bad rings off the back and man that thing does look a whole lot cleaner than it did when I sent it. You got good draw weight out of it too and I like the braced and drawn profiles, looks like it's a nice shooter. I handed Pearly a similar stave last summer that may have been a sister to that one, we'll have to see what he comes up with when he gets
up the gumption to start chasing rings on it. Of course he's just a youngster compared to you so chasing those rings will be much less work for him. ;)

hahahaha heck, jesus is a youngster compared to bubby :D

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: vinemaplebows on March 21, 2014, 06:59:33 pm

Great job! I want to know how that buckthorn compares to Cascara?? Has anyone worked both woods? They are both buckthorns. Sure look the same. :)


VMB

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: burchett.donald on March 21, 2014, 07:08:12 pm

You nailed another one Bubby...I like the camo and that is definitely a hunter...Sweet bend
                                                                                                            Don

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 07:17:57 pm

thanks Greg I appreciate the kind words, and yeah pealie is young enough to be my younger bro, wayyy younger :laugh:
thanks Bob she is a bit of a thumper
jordo, shat up >:D :laugh:
thanks Donald, brian I haven't worked cascara yet so cant compare i'll have to get one from you and see, I did just weight it and with the rawhide, leather grip and the string it weighed 15 oz., so 62" ttt and 54#@ 28"i'm not sure how that works out mass wise, but the back is soft like yew and the belly works real easy with hand tools

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: adb on March 21, 2014, 07:26:53 pm

Sweet bow, Bubster... nice bend.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 21, 2014, 07:47:44 pm

thank you Adam

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: medicinewheel on March 22, 2014, 04:25:54 am

Love it.
Staining looks great!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: dwardo on March 22, 2014, 06:27:20 am

Full draw looks brilliant. The finish is superb.
Seems to have a real nice colour to the timber.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Aaron H on March 22, 2014, 09:06:36 am

Great looking bow, well done

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Trapper Rob on March 22, 2014, 10:01:44 am

Dang Bub that's a real beauty can't wait till it shows up at my door for the bow trade I sure hope you get my address right   ;D great looking bow buddy.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: ohma2 on March 22, 2014, 10:09:57 am

Thats a nice lookin stick for sure

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bushboy on March 22, 2014, 10:11:56 am

You sure make some awesome bows BuBBY,this one is no exception,from boards to lams and staves!great work!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: lostarrow on March 22, 2014, 12:07:19 pm

 Love it! Rawhide sure does look nice on a bow, and you certainly did this one justice.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 22, 2014, 08:51:45 pm

medicinewheel, dwardo, falcon, thanks
trob thanks but I don't think your the poor sap that I drew
omha, bushboy, lostarrow I appreciate the compliments, bub

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 23, 2014, 02:29:46 am

Nice lines on that bow Bub! Looks like a shooter. 

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 23, 2014, 03:02:56 am

thank's Carson

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Josh B on March 23, 2014, 01:26:29 pm

Man oh man!  I really like that bow Bub!  Nice work Sir!   Josh

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 23, 2014, 03:06:16 pm

thanks a lot Josh, it's been nice building more stave bows lately

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: H Rhodes on March 23, 2014, 06:04:31 pm

Heck yeah!  That's a good looking bow bubby.  I like that backing. 

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 23, 2014, 07:06:34 pm

thank ya howard

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Lefty8917 on March 25, 2014, 11:30:45 pm

Bubby,sweet bow first off! I was hoping to pick your brain about the rawhide backing. I'm currently working on a Osage bow that I backed with rawhide. It developed a pretty nasty splinter on the back, so I did what needed to be done. Did you thin the hide once it was already on the bow?  how thin did you go? And what works best to thin it? Thanks

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 25, 2014, 11:58:50 pm

Thanks lefty, I didn't thin it it was pretty thin when I put it on, seems to me you could sand it down of it's real thick, what did you use a dog bone chew

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Lefty8917 on March 26, 2014, 12:09:02 am

I did use a dog bone. Seems to be working well but it has some thick spots. I've been using medium aggressive files and sand paper. Just didn't know if there was a better method. I really like the stain finish you did. Id like to do something similar.

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 26, 2014, 02:49:11 pm

that stain job is pretty easy, I stained the whole bow and let it dry a while, then get a contrasting dye it can be lighter or darker, and put some on a old bowl or container, put on some gloves and take one off those disposable plastic bags and wad it up in your hand and dip it in the stain, I then dab it on a pc of cardboard a few times, then start dabbing it on the back of the bow till you get the pattern that you want, take a clean rag to wipe up any collateral staining on the edge of the bow, that's how I do it hope this helps, bub

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Blackcoyote on March 26, 2014, 04:29:24 pm

Great looking bow bubby!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Lefty8917 on March 26, 2014, 04:35:44 pm

Thanks Bub. I'll give it a try

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 26, 2014, 04:56:59 pm

lefty if you want put a pc of scrap rawhide on a cut off and practice first,
thanks blackcoyote

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Sidewinder on March 26, 2014, 05:24:37 pm

Bub your tiller is always spot on. Love it.  Danny

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: SLIMBOB on March 26, 2014, 05:27:42 pm

Yep, I would agree with that all day.  Back for a third peek!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 26, 2014, 06:06:10 pm

thanks guys, means a lot

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: NeolithicMan on March 26, 2014, 06:12:12 pm

ooooo I like it a lot!

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 27, 2014, 02:12:05 pm

neolithicman thanks I appreciate it

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: Lefty8917 on March 27, 2014, 05:31:02 pm

Thats a good idea bub, I some of that bone left i can practice on. Thanks

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: bubby on March 27, 2014, 08:34:55 pm

hope to see how it turns out

Title: Re: rawhide n' buckthorn
Post by: rps3 on March 27, 2014, 10:00:58 pm

Vey nice looking bow.