Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: tallpine on March 27, 2014, 05:04:41 pm
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I have an Osage recurve in the works that I am going to sinew. I spent the last few days searching old posts and there seems to be a lot of different opinions on using Tite-bond and sinew. I would like to get some fresh input before I decide which way to go. Any and all help appreciated.
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I only use hide glue for sinew backing.
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Most and I have use hide and if you do use hide glue, make sure you degrease the osage really well.
DBar
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knox knox knox
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Nothing fresh my friend, same battle wages. They both work, but one is better than the other.
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this topic comes up atlease once a month lol maybe we should just sticky it to the top lol
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sticky it as in...with hide glue.... hee hee! see what i did there. >:D
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corny man corny lol
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I prefer to use hide glue for sinew backings.
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I have seen this one get nasty! >:D I prefer hide glue.
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I use super glue. :)
Patrick
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I don't know a lot about it, but I used tb2 on my first sinew job that I done just 2 week's ago. I personally was pleased with the results after the glue all dried. But it was difficult in my opinion to apply because the glue was thick and hard to tell where you are at during the application. That being said I would have loved to use hide glue, I have never had any experience with hide glue. So I was pretty hesitant to mix up some Knox hide glue, and just start the application. Since then I have made 4 batches of it and finally figured it out and will be using it on my next sinew job.
If you want some recent info there was a pretty good conversation on my thread when I applied sinew with tb2. Its only just under 2 week's old. Here is the link.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,45674.0.html
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Yeah, it is harder with tb as it's thick and sticky. Maybe if you watered it down it would help? I tried sinewing with tb3 once, and will never try again. It dried on the outside but the sinew never dried on the inside. It was still squishy after a month. I will never do that again. It was not near as snappy as a sinew bow normally is, and took a lot of set. I just sinewed a bow a couple days ago with some hide glue I got from woodcraft. So far I am very pleased, looks and smells like the hide glue I used to make from sinew scraps. I almost got some that was labeled "industrial hide glue", but than I read all the warnings about ventilation and how not to come into contact with skin, etc. I found some other stuff though that was more expensive, but seemed to be just good old hide glue. It was much easier to make then cooking your own too, took an hour or so and it was ready to go.
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Yeah the Knox gelatin glue don't take too long. It takes longer to get the water temp right than anything. I glued two pieces of Osage together that was about 6in long and after it set up over night I couldn't break them apart. Even beating them on the work bench. I did finally break them with a hammer while it was propped up on two boards. The glue held and I actually ripped the wood.
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Thanks for the link lebhuntfish, don't know how I missed that thread. I'm going with the tried and true hide glue, I've used it before, just always looking to try something new. Thanks for all the replies guys
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No problem, glad I could help.
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I use super glue. :) :o :o :o
Patrick
Knox is "super" from my little experience so far.
I have used TB3 for filling a couple gaps after the knox for the main job. Is this bad??
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I've sealed a sinew backing with a thin coat of TBIII to help waterproof it.
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I do that on all of them Pat.
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I've played and experimented with both and HIDE GLUE wins hands down...so hide glue is BEST,and don't let anyone tell ya any different,and if they do just ignore em ;) 8)
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Both are messy, both take the same amount of time, both hold the sinew down if the bow back is properly degreased....but TB yields less performance. It's kinda like saying, I wanna do just a good job, but I'd rather not do a great job, even though it is the same amount of work. :o
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Yeah, titebond ain't resilient like hideglue. (This is the conclusion I have come to anyway) Titebond stretches I guess, but it don't stretch back. Hide glue will snap back when stretched. This is what is seems like to me.