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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Don Case on May 08, 2014, 05:03:55 pm

Title: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 08, 2014, 05:03:55 pm
I've seen a few posts where people talk about testing arrows with no fletching. Could someone explain this a bit?
Thanks
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on May 08, 2014, 05:31:59 pm
Don, on center shot bows(FG) where the arrow doesn't go through much paradox, shooting bare shaft arrows(no fletching) is part of an arrow tuning process. If an arrow flies well without fletching it shouldn't take much fletching to stabilize a broadhead arrow which will help keep arrow speed higher. Fletching = drag
It might work with selfbows but a longer arrow with lighter spine would probably be necessary.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 08, 2014, 05:47:09 pm
Bare shaft but with a point of some sort or complete bare shaft ie. a stick?
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Mad Max on May 08, 2014, 06:16:51 pm
Bare shaft but with a point of some sort or complete bare shaft ie. a stick?
Yes With a point and string nock ( just like what your going to use)
no fethers    no fletching
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 08, 2014, 06:24:23 pm
Got it! Thanks guys
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on May 09, 2014, 12:08:57 am
An arrow before fletching.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: H Rhodes on May 09, 2014, 01:03:30 am
Just don't shoot a broadhead on a bareshaft...  I have read warnings on that and believed them enough not to try it, but it's not supposed to be good - they say they can wind plane and go in unexpected directions.  I do my bareshafting with field tips. 
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pappy on May 09, 2014, 08:12:38 am
Yep,good advice H Rhodes,I tried it and they are wilder than a bat. ;) :) I do it with most all of my arrows, on a new bow to see what it needs ,then make the other arrows accordingly, just arrow before fletching as PatB said. You can lengthen or shorten and add tip weight until it hits the target straight,then when you fletch they will fly like darts and hit where you look.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Del the cat on May 09, 2014, 10:57:22 am
I always test drive my car with no tyres, just to see how it handles ;)  ::) >:D
Del
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 09, 2014, 02:41:29 pm
Del
I leave the tires on so it don't hit so hard when she comes back down on all four!
Guy
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: scattershot on May 15, 2014, 10:30:44 pm
I always test drive my car with no tyres, just to see how it handles ;)  ::) >:D
Del

Yeah, but you can do that in London, on account of the traffic slowing everything down.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: 4dog on May 19, 2014, 12:44:36 am
thats funny Del...causr i cant picture you driving at all...lol    >:D
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on May 19, 2014, 12:53:13 am
You are looking on the wrong side of the road, 4dog.   ;D
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 29, 2014, 03:02:27 pm
Rather than hi-jack the "sealing river cane" thread, I thought I'd resurrect this one. On the "sealing river cane" thread PatB mentioned that two of his six arrows hit the target broadside. What would cause that? What would be different from the four that went straight?
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2014, 03:16:22 pm
Don, I think they are a bit over spined. Even after fletching they shot like an over spined arrow. When those two came off the bow the rear went to the left first in paradox then took a hard right, flat into the target.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 29, 2014, 03:19:19 pm
Thanks Pat, I guess a lead tip is the only answer for reducing spine on a cane arrow?
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2014, 03:23:29 pm
Once the rind is removed you can scrape the shaft to reduce spine but in the case of these two arrows I will add more tip weight. Extra length helps to reduce spine also by 5# per inch.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Don Case on May 29, 2014, 04:12:41 pm
Is it necessary to scrape all around the arrow or can you just run the scraper up the two sides. Reduce the spine horizontally and not vertically is what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: gutpile on May 29, 2014, 04:16:14 pm
just foreshaft your over spined arrows..LOL... heck you may find they become your favorite... dont be afraid of the FORESHAFT..lol...
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: gutpile on May 29, 2014, 04:17:25 pm
plus I have also found out cane cane run different spines from one side to the next too...no doubt...
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: stickbender on June 02, 2014, 04:11:14 pm

    Ooooh naked arrows!!  ...... :) :) ::) >:D


                                 Wayne
Title: Re: No fletching
Post by: Pat B on June 02, 2014, 06:30:39 pm
 Most shoot shafts and cane have a stiff side and that side goes against the bow for best arrow flight.