Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: arkdoc on May 15, 2014, 10:03:48 am
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I have been practicing identifying different types of trees. This one is in my backyard and was gonna see if this board could help. I am located in Arkansas and am posting the pictures. Thanks!
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Black walnut?
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Looks like an Ash to me, but I can't tell if its a Green or a White ash.
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That sir is a black walnut without a doubt....the "flowers" confirm it
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Black walnut
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I'm thinking hickory or pecan. What kind of nut does it produce? They should still be on the ground if you haven't picked them up.
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Yep it is a Black Walnut, what part of Arkansas are you from?
Grady
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Cut a small 3" dia branch or so...if it has dark heartwood its black walnut...pat might be onto something,but the bark seems a lil off for pecan/hickory...but bark in pics and even in person can be vary misleading and deceiving,and not a very good indicator all the time...wish I could see it all in person,cus that's the easiest way to id it for me ..and yeah..any old nuts or hulls laying around?
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Black walnut, pecan and the other hickories are in the Juglandaceae family so they have similar compound leaves and flower tassels. A bit more info would help. Black walnut has a very dark heartwood.
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It's black walnut, coming from the neighbor to your north.
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I'm guessing butternut. Leaflets too wide for black walnut.
Jim Davis
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This nut or that nut why all the argument?
Looks like bow wood to me !!!
Guy
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Black walnut also has quite a sizeable pith that is segmented in the small twigs and branches, maybe check that. I'm not sure if hickory or pecan or butternut have that characteristic though.
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It doesn't have the seeds that look like ash. It might be black walnut, I will have to look for the nuts and see. It is compounded by the fact that I have a live oak in my yard as well that drops a ton. I am from the Little Rock area. I am not going to use it as I currently have to hickory staves and 4 ERC staves drying in the shed. I am just trying to learn my trees better. I will have to post more pictures of other trees to keep learning. I like this.
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Little Rock huh, I work there and live in the Malvern area.
Grady
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Yeah, I am in med school here and this is my main past time. I am kind of addicted now.
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BW was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the leaves, not sure on the bark.
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Black walnut nut is the size of a tennis ball. Hickory is about 1" I diameter. Pecan a bit smaller but football shaped.
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Looks like pecan to me. Good bow wood.
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At first glance of the leaves I was thinking pecan, bark also looks like pecan to me. I don't see many of them where I'm at but have one on our block here in town and its a dead ringer for that one. I've been wrong many times before though, come to think of it probably more often than right. :D
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I know iron that've pecans. I am used to those at my parents house. I looked for old nuts on the ground, didn't find too much, but it was mostly small stuff.
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Pics. Take pics of the nuts and any husks that might be present. take a pic of the tree.
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That bark looks EXACTLY like a Pecan trunk, about the same size diameter too, just delivered to us. Came halved and Steve has taken three days to split her up, record heatwave had some to do with that but still, really Tough stuff! I understand it's unusual to have Pecan growin' in California.
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After I did some research, I have to conclude that this must be a Carya illinoinensis, or pecan.
The compound leaves, flowers and rough bark are a clear indicator for some tree in the Juglandaceae family, or walnut family. Black walnut and butternut can be ruled out based on the flowers. Your picture shows a longer flower than we see in walnuts. Next, we can use the number of leaflets for a differentiation between true hickories and pecan. True hickories have 9 or less leaflets. Since your leaf shows 11 leaflets, it has to be a pecan, which has between 11-17 leaflets. The serrated leaf margin of your tree also matches that of pecan.
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Darksoul and others, I think your right on the pecan. Don't believe the black walnut has flower catkins like those in the photo. I'm changing my vote.
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Looks like a Pecan to me.
Dig around in the grass, right up next to the fence, might be that a few old nuts or hulls could be found.
David
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I'm the world's poorist excuse for an arborist. However I do know for a fact that the tree I'm posting pics of is an 18 yr old black walnut. You will notice that the bark and catkins are slightly different than the tree in question. I believe that your tree is indeed a pecan and not a black walnut. But as I said, I'm horrible at tree ID. Josh
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After going back and looking at the pics again and counting the leaflets I am more inclined to think this is a pecan instead of a black walnut, typically black walnut has more leaflets as what is shown in the pictures and the bark is not as shaggy.
Grady
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Hmmm? I'm a guessing I was prob wrong on the first guess...glad I'm human..whew!!!!
An FYI...the bw josh posted is a younger tree that hasn't matured yet...when they do mature they will have a darker furrowed bark than the lighter greyish tan when young...
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You guys were right! I guess I never paid much attention, but there are pecans in my back yard. It is definately a pecan tree. I guess I am just used to the huge pecans we have on our farm back home.
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Probably a native tree.