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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Vgo750 on May 17, 2014, 12:55:07 am

Title: The guessing game
Post by: Vgo750 on May 17, 2014, 12:55:07 am
Its time to play the guessing game!  Lets guess where my almost-bow popped a splinter tonight!
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy54/91mr2_album/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo-2.jpg) (http://s777.photobucket.com/user/91mr2_album/media/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo-2.jpg.html)

This is my first post on PA so please forgive me if i dont know the culture.  The bow is a Hickory backed white oak pyramid.  64 ttt, slightly flipped tips, slightly reflexed upon glue up(was still holding good reflex up to pop).  This is the last pic i took about 15 minute before the pop...was sitting at 57@26"...I took about 15 strokes out of each fade and bow popped on the 4th of 5th pull to 28"....bummer.  I imagine yall will probably all guess correctly.  This is my 7th bow.  I will update tomorrow with splinter...I hope to lord I can still save this bow as the splinter isnt TERRIBLE.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: osage outlaw on May 17, 2014, 01:02:34 am
I'm going to guess its on the right limb
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: IdahoMatt on May 17, 2014, 01:13:24 am
I would guess right limb too.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: DuBois on May 17, 2014, 01:44:42 am
right, just past fade?
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: BL on May 17, 2014, 03:04:24 am
Right limb, about 10" from the tip.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: huisme on May 17, 2014, 03:08:34 am
I'm going to run against the grain and say left limb just past half way out, just to mix things up ;)
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: medicinewheel on May 17, 2014, 03:24:31 am
Right limb about 12" from the tip I'd say.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Crogacht on May 17, 2014, 03:50:50 am
Handle belly  >:D
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Del the cat on May 17, 2014, 03:57:58 am
Left mid limb
Del
Is there a prize?, don't tell me its a Chrysal or a bag of splinters ::)
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Bearded bowyer on May 17, 2014, 06:40:23 am
Right limb 6 inches from grip  ::)
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 17, 2014, 09:34:20 am
There looks to be a little hinge on the right limb right where MedicingWheel said. Jawge
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Vgo750 on May 17, 2014, 12:21:30 pm
Man yall are GOOD.  Splinter is 8" from the fade on the right limb.  Sorry, no prize :(.  Here is the splinter:
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy54/91mr2_album/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo21.jpg) (http://s777.photobucket.com/user/91mr2_album/media/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo21.jpg.html)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy54/91mr2_album/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo3-2.jpg) (http://s777.photobucket.com/user/91mr2_album/media/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo3-2.jpg.html)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy54/91mr2_album/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo4-2.jpg) (http://s777.photobucket.com/user/91mr2_album/media/White%20Oak%20Flipped%20Tips/photo4-2.jpg.html)

Do yall think I could save her?...Glue down splinter and maybe silk or paper or cloth back the hickory backing lol?
And then finally, is this just a case of not enough bend out of the fades?  My gizmo was actually telling me the rest of the limb was pretty close to even.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: PatM on May 17, 2014, 12:53:30 pm
You have to round the edges of the backing more. Especially when there is a slight grain run-out.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: bubbles on May 17, 2014, 01:37:06 pm
Is that white oak on the belly?  All the white oak I have is a darker brown colour - Maybe I don't have white oak - although I did get it from a lumberyard from the white oak section.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Vgo750 on May 17, 2014, 01:39:33 pm
Yes sir, white oak belly.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Bearded bowyer on May 17, 2014, 02:26:28 pm
Had that so many times working with American ash. I bined them all, very gutted if I could have saved them  ;)
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Jim Davis on May 17, 2014, 11:25:24 pm
You have to round the edges of the backing more. Especially when there is a slight grain run-out.

+1 In fact you could still "trap" the back and probably come out with a shooter--do retiller first to get rid of the hinge.

Jim Davis
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Vgo750 on May 17, 2014, 11:41:20 pm
Hey thanks for the responses guys. As far as getting rid of the hinge..do I just need to take off the right fade before the hinge? I feel like the rest if the limb is bending ok.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: medicinewheel on May 18, 2014, 01:28:45 am
You have to round the edges of the backing more. Especially when there is a slight grain run-out.

Yes, and compressing the backing would have helped, too!
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: mikekeswick on May 18, 2014, 03:23:13 am
You have to round the edges of the backing more. Especially when there is a slight grain run-out.

Yes, and compressing the backing would have helped, too!

If you have to 'compress' the backing strip it wasn't good enough in the first place  ;) Straight grain is the be all and end all of backing woods.
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Merlit on May 18, 2014, 09:43:28 am
Why back a white oak bow - was the grain bad?
Title: Re: The guessing game
Post by: Vgo750 on May 18, 2014, 10:11:53 am
This one started out a selfbow Actually...and the grain was very good but I raised a splinter.  After sanding the splinter out I was way under target weight so I backed and reflexed to get some weight back. It Was working out great too until this last splinter.