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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 05:35:38 pm

Title: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 05:35:38 pm
I cut down some sugar maple and some oak today. The maple is good stuff, though very twisted(will fix with heat gun). The oak split almost perfectly straight, but I'm having a bit of a hard time identifying what kind it is exactly any help would be appreciated...
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Pat B on September 08, 2014, 05:37:39 pm
It's one of the red oaks. All red oaks have pointed lobes on the leaves and white oaks have rounded lobes.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 05:40:18 pm
Thanks pat. I've got about a dozen premium staves of this, 72" long. Any suggestions on different bow styles?
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Pat B on September 08, 2014, 05:43:21 pm
66" to 68" long, 1 3/4" to 2" at the fades and out to mid limb with a straight taper to the tips. Leave the tips wide(1/2" to 3/4") until first brace then narrow them to 3/8" after you are sure the string lines up well.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Swampman on September 08, 2014, 07:11:25 pm
That sure looks like a nice log.  Red oak is pretty wood.  Should make some nice bows.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Pat B on September 08, 2014, 07:20:05 pm
Use the wood right under the bark for the back. I hope you can still peel the bark.  :-\
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 08:01:57 pm
Just cut it today. I'll shave the bark tomorrow. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: IdahoMatt on September 08, 2014, 08:14:23 pm
Looks like a great haul sled. :)
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: missilemaster on September 08, 2014, 08:30:14 pm
Cut it up into boards and make some board bows! ;D
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 08:38:55 pm
This was the haul. I'm kind of disappointed in the maple. The bark and everything indicated that the grain would be arrow straight. The staves are all 6ft and some have a twist of almost 90 degrees from one end to the other.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 08, 2014, 10:22:21 pm
Pat, did you mean on the oak or the maple?
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Joec123able on September 09, 2014, 12:47:13 pm
Some beautiful oak staves
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Pat B on September 09, 2014, 01:02:51 pm
On the oak and maple.   Both are considered whitewood as far as bow building is concerned.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 09, 2014, 02:50:12 pm
Thanks, Pat. Did a couple of the oaks and debarked a couple sugar maple saplings I fell. Should turn into some nice character bows. Am I wrong in assuming I can treat sugar maple like vine maple as far as design is concerned?
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Pat B on September 09, 2014, 02:54:09 pm
I've not used either yet. I have a vine maple stave that vinemaplebows sent me but I ain't got to it yet. 
  Be sure to seal any bare backs and ends.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 09, 2014, 06:46:14 pm
Got it covered. Learned my lesson the hard way about not sealing up ends and backs with some black locust I cut before. I'll probably rough out one of the maple staves in the near future. I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: tanner on September 09, 2014, 08:11:48 pm
I think they already answered, but definitely red oak. I have quite a few on my place. They should have really fat acorns that extend quite a ways down from the cap (little cap, big nut). The bark and pointed leaves though a dead ringer.
Title: Re: Fresh oak and maple staves...
Post by: Crogacht on September 09, 2014, 08:34:51 pm
I find the bark orientation to be a bit hit and miss. I tend to look for the shape of the trunk more than the bark. Unless the trunk is perfectly round, you can see ridges/bulges/valleys etc spiral lengthways up the trunk if it has prop twist.