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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: DC on September 28, 2014, 12:18:26 pm

Title: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 28, 2014, 12:18:26 pm
A while I made some hide glue from dog bone rawhide. I turned out beautifully clear, like butterscotch candy. I made some the other day from sinew scraps and knee joints and stuff. It gelled really well and in all respects looked great except it was cloudy. Does the cloudiness affect the quality of the glue? If so is there a way to clarify it?
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: Zuma on September 28, 2014, 03:05:25 pm
Wish I could help. Only advise is beware
of the dog you stole the bone from.
Good luck with a neat project.
Zuma
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 28, 2014, 03:22:05 pm
I went to a local butcher to get beef sinew. They were tossing the sinew in a bucket. I guess they got tired of separating sinew from bones so they threw in a bunch of knee/ankle joints with sinew attached. After I separated the sinew I thought I would make glue from the leftovers. Like I said, it gelled real well but was cloudy. I wasn't sure it would make good glue so I made French Onion soup with it. Good soup!
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: tipi stuff on September 28, 2014, 05:09:19 pm
I've made a lot of glue from sinew. I haven't done any comparative testing on it, but it holds well. I have sinew backed many, many bows with it and never had a problem. Curtis
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 28, 2014, 08:03:46 pm
Hi Curtis, does your sinew glue turn out nice and clear or is it cloudy?
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: osage outlaw on September 28, 2014, 11:09:55 pm
I've made a few batches of sinew glue and it was a clear amber color after I strained it.
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 29, 2014, 12:28:21 am
What did you strain it with?
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: osage outlaw on September 29, 2014, 12:38:52 am
Some fabric that was on the flat part of a bed skirt.  It is pretty fine and doesn't let any solids pass through.
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: Pat B on September 29, 2014, 11:29:04 am
 Do a strength test and compare it with the clear glue.   I've not made hide glue but the commercial stuff I use is never crystal clear.
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 29, 2014, 12:34:06 pm
I'll do that. If I glue couple of pieces of wood together how long should I let it dry before testing it ?
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: Pat B on September 29, 2014, 12:59:56 pm
add glue to both pieces of wood and let that dry then glue them together.   I'd give it at least a few days in a dry climate. Longer id humid.
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on September 29, 2014, 01:19:36 pm
Well, so much for that. I can't find my nice clear glue. Must have used it or something. Maybe I'm just old ???
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: tipi stuff on October 05, 2014, 08:51:06 am
I strain mine too, sometimes with cheese cloth. Mine is always a little cloudy.  CC
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: PatM on October 05, 2014, 10:02:58 am
A coffee filter works well for removing finer particles.
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on October 05, 2014, 12:41:53 pm
Do you strain it as soon as you take the hide/sinew out or wait until it thickens a bit?
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: tipi stuff on October 05, 2014, 03:32:23 pm
I strain before it thickens.  CC
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: osage outlaw on October 05, 2014, 03:58:33 pm
Strain it hot. 
Title: Re: Hide/sinew Glue
Post by: DC on October 05, 2014, 05:26:32 pm
The nicest glue I've made(I haven't made much) was made from doggy bone rawhide. It was a bit of a chore to cut if into small pieces. I noticed some dog chews that look like they are made from ground, compressed rawhide. I thought it might make it a bit easier. Has anyone tried them? I realize that if I want easy I should just use Knox but somehow that just isn't as primitive.