Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Alpinbogen on October 15, 2014, 08:49:12 pm
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I thought this might be right up the alley of many bowmakers... (It is for me!) My wife and I just got back from the 26th Annual Delmarva Paddler's Retreat, on Rehoboth Bay, in Delaware. The retreat has focused on traditional Greenland qajaqs and rolling techniques since 2001, and features mentored rolling sessions, along with various presentations throughout the weekend. This year's event was another washout with continuous wind and rain, though milder than last year's intense Nor'Easter. All sessions, however, went on as planned. This was my wife's first time spending any serious time in a Greenland qajaq, let alone upside down in any kayak. The mentors are fantastic and soothed her trepidation (aka; unbridled fear of being trapped under water) with verbal assurance and close contact the entire time. This was my 3rd attendance, and as always, everyone was so much fun. I heard this year's head count was 65.
The Tower on the beach at Camp Arrowhead. Greenland, USA, and Norway flags proudly blowing.
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Our sleeping arrangements in Warbonnet hammocks, on the edge of the woods, about 100 yds from the water. We also claimed an adjacent cabin to stage our gear.
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My lovely wife, enjoying hammock life.
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The event is sponsored by Qajaq USA, the American Chapter of Greenland's Qaannat Kattuffiat (kayak club), dedicated to keeping traditional kayaking skills alive.
Qajaq USA has a traveling fleet of 17 skin-on-frame qajaqs, along with numerous paddles, norsaqs, akuilisaqs, avataqs, and tuiliks available for anyone needing equipment. Here is their trailer with blue "Smurf gear", airing out as best as can be in the rainy weather.
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Saturday night's presentation with special guest, Anders Thygesen, founder of Kajakkspesialisten, in Norway.
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Ulu set and cedar paddle (built days earlier by Brian Shultz of Cape Falcon Kayak) that my wife won in Saturday night's auction. All proceeds benefit Qajaq USA.
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The "big guns" in a friendly international rolling competion. My favorite roll was (rolling guru) Dubside's "Wine Roll" (not shown); a complete 360 degree hand roll, while passing a glass of wine above the water and surfacing without spilling a drop! Best party roll, ever!
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On Sunday, the sun finally came out. (Morning) Mentor training was held in the small pool. Can you say, "ice water"? Holy crap! Skivvies under a dry suit weren't cutting it!
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Palo's Wedding Relay Race is held immediately following the Sunday morning sessions. Kayaks entering the water.
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The weather was finally safe for non-waterproof cameras. Pulling the race together is best described as organized chaos! There are lots of additions/subtractions and team flopping down to the last seconds!
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Kayaks lining up at the starting gate.
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"Sprinters, GO!!!" Norwegian guest, Anders Thygesen, lunged far ahead in the first few strokes! You can barely see the stern of his kayak in the far right of the photo. Incredible!
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After the sprinters round the buoys and make it back to the beach, they hand a norsaq off to paddlers towing the "seals". It's quite the melee with sprinters jetting in and seals hauling out! ;D "Seals" are being towed in this pic. "All seals must be dead", and seals observed to assist by kicking or swimming may be clubbed with paddles or norsaqs by competitors! >:D
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Impending carnage.... (There was at least one wet exit in this race.)
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A mentor in baidarka after his leg. "Backwards paddler" coming in, in the distance. (He just built his kayak in Brian Shultz's class in the days preceeding Delmarva!)
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Palo and Bride, rounding buoy on the way out!
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Another Palo and Bride coming in! (Hang on, Bride!)
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This turned out to be a photo finish for 2nd/3rd! (Dad with daughter in distance, at only 7 years old!) :dblthumb:
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One of the group's contratulatory photos. (This is such a fun event, I forget who even won.)
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Congratulating Rocket Man, Anders!
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After lunch and the official closing, I couldn't resist doing a few more rolls in the blessed sunshine...all of which I've learned in the last few years at Delmarva! I set my GoPro on one of the wooden dock piers to catch the action. (Can you embed youtube here?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyFxL9tpygY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyFxL9tpygY)
If anyone is interested in Greenland paddling and rolling, check out Qajaq USA's website. There are a handful of these events that go on every year across the country. Paddling and rolling in a skin-on-frame kayak is like magic. It's organic and light, and the wooden frame flexes with the waves and motion of the water. You sit on a fabric skin and can sense the slightlest temperature change in the water, from your backside to your core. It's the most intimate paddling experience you can imagine. It's a dance with the water, with the qajaq your shoes. :4:
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That is cool! I could really get into it if it was warmer. :) My Dream Vacation is going to Iceland, the wife and I were just talking about it last night.
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Very cool! My river is not fond of "traditional" kayaks but handles the moderns well.
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Very interesting - thanks for sharing. Bob
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Thats good stuff there thanks JeffW
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Dang, that looks really cool! No way I would get in that water though. I'm cold just looking at it lol
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Those wooden sea yaks are a work of art! Way cool post.
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That is cool! Those yaks are works of art like Bill said.
I love the under quilts. Did you buy them? If so, where? I need a good one myself.
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Those wooden sea yaks are a work of art! Way cool post.
Traditional arctic kayaks were made by skin-on-frame construction, similar to early airplanes. Seal skin was traditionally used for the skin, thought ballistic nylon is now much more common. ;) This is the frame of one I built last year before skinning. Strong and light, the completed kayak is 18.5' long and weighs just 27#.
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The event is centered around Traditional Greenland kayaking, but anyone with another suitable kayak is welcome to learn the paddling and rolling techniques. Or, they can hop in a fleet kayak, first come, first serve. Greenland kayaks, Aleutian baidarkas (Actually baidarka is the Russian term for "little boat". Ikyax is the Aleutian name.), and modern sea kayaks in everything from skin-on-frame, stitch and glue, and strip-built, to polyethylene, fiberglass, and kelvar construction were in attendance.
Dang, that looks really cool! No way I would get in that water though. I'm cold just looking at it lol
Hence, you see everyone in drysuits and tuiliks. :) Cold water actually isn't bad at all when dressed for it.
I love the under quilts. Did you buy them? If so, where? I need a good one myself.
These are 850+fill goose down quilts from Underground Quilts (UGQ). I've had quilts by 3 manufacturers, and these are the best quilts made, IMO. I have 20* set and a 40* set of their Zeppelin and Flight Jacket quilts. Their underquilts are quite wide for excellent coverage and have a great suspension that doesn't let the underquilt shift or sag.
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Where Could a very interested person get some building plans?
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That looks like a lot of fun. I love your kayak posts. When you first posted that kayak that you made (I think it was back in 2011?) it inspired me to start looking into making my own. 3 years later and I finally got the ball rolling and have a frame nearly finished. Not as traditional as yours, but it will get me on the water at least. I suspect there will be more in my future... this one is more of a baidarka, but I love the lines of the greenland kayak, and I think that will be next on the list.
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The dog seems to think it's done! ;D
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Cameroo, What a great looking baidarka (or ikyax)! That's fantastic! It will be interesting to see it all skinned up. I'd like to build one of those too, for longer touring and camping.
Adirondackman, Alot of people (myself included) follow the building instructions in, "Building the Greenland Kayak: A Manual for It's Construction and Use". The book doesn't offer a fixed set of plans, per se, but describes the process and construction methods, and gives a range of dimensions relative to your body measurements. The construction is very fluid and there are forks in the road all along the way. Once the gunwales are laid out with markings for the deck beam and rib locations, there is very little measuring involved, with most of the pieces being custom fit to the kayak. There are several simple little wooden measuring guages the book describes to mark the pieces.
A couple of words of advise if you follow this book. The range of height/depth measurements that the book describes will give you a kayak that is fairly high volume for a Greenland kayak. On my first build, I stuck with the mid-range to smaller size dimensions and wound up with a very stable touring kayak that had room for minimalist camping gear, but it was too big to roll all that well, since I flopped around too much inside the cockpit. That seems to be the general consensus among builders. If you prefer a more snug fit or want to advance your roll, you'll need a more snug fit. So, you could shim such a kayak out with foam or build one to much smaller dimensions than those described in the book. For example, the suggested kayak width is "the width of your hips + 1 or 2 fists", depending on how roomy you want it. I built successively smaller kayaks and am happier with my current kayak width of "wdith of hips + 1/2 fist" (or an 18.75" beam for my 17" hips). I went with similar downsizing for the kayak depth and masik height. But then again, I like a snug fit and like to roll, and don't mind a twitchy kayak too much. ;D
Also, I would recommend "not" using the aft cockpit beam as a back rest, as it will dig into your back. Either keep it back slightly and pad it with foam, or better yet, keep it way back and install a commercial backback or do without. (I prefer to do without.) Similar to the footrest deck beam, be sure it is far enough forward so you only hit it with an extended foot or it will cause cramping. Again, there are commercial footrest options, or you can err on the side of caution and dowel in a piece to extend it after the frame is together, if needed. In my current kayak, I set the footbeam far enough forward that it's just barely out of reach unless I sink my lower body forward, so I have no foot or back bracing; which works fine since I'm otherwise locked in the kayak tightly between the gunwales and the low masik on my thighs. Save your finished cockpit/foot/back beam locations, so you have a base to hold or modifiy for your next kayak! 8)
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Great pictures, those kayaks are beautiful.