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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: littlehunters19862011 on November 10, 2014, 06:26:54 pm

Title: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on November 10, 2014, 06:26:54 pm
this past summer i was working trying new things one of them happend to be me trying to make a charcol forge. after about a week of looking  at pics i took a old fire pot and and  took sum concrete mix and started working on  getting the top molded got that worked out  stuck me a small fan  at the bottom and went and got sum charcol . works really well  to playaround with and gets railroad spikes cherry red in minits .  finding out i could not use just  any kind of pliers i been on  the took out for  a cheap set of BLACKSMITH TONGS . what I'm needing to no is what type of tongs am i going to need for mainly working with railroad spikes witch typed would hold the best ? any input would be grate . i no there is sum guys on the site that makes knifes  and works with sum propain forge. maybe you guys can get me lookin at the right stuff .
Title: Re: ? about BLACKSMITH tools
Post by: wildman on November 10, 2014, 11:19:44 pm
I often use vice grips, I set them to the piece before I start working it.  You should check antique stores and flea markets for some smitty tools.
Title: Re: ? about BLACKSMITH tools
Post by: madcrow on November 11, 2014, 08:30:27 am
I made my own out of some cold roled steel bars.
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Post by: longbow man on November 11, 2014, 01:23:48 pm
    Try and keep the steel full length if you can or around 18" long to go into the fire. This way most of the forging can be done with no tongs or pliers. Just grab the end with good leather gloves.
Title: Re: ? about BLACKSMITH tools
Post by: stickbender on November 11, 2014, 03:20:32 pm

     Do like Madcrow said, and make your own.  After all it is a forge......  ::) ;)  Also if you want to get ready made tongs, look for a Farrier, (Horse shoe maker) and see where he orders his supplies, or go on line, and look up either blacksmith supplies, or Farrier supplies, or check out some farm supply stores.  As for using concrete, I would recommend using fire clay, that is used in making fireplaces, and bar B que grills. Get a variety of hammers, five pound sledge, large pall peen, and small ball peen, good heavy duty wire brush, welders hammer, Welders glove, and apron, and good eye protection.  You can use a heat gun for your forced air, as it is hot and adds to forge.  Keep your eye out for stuff for sale on the internet, and yard sales, and antique shops.  A good heavy duty vice is a must have, and try to get an OLDER American made one, as the Chinese crap, is cast iron, and will bust apart when you use the little anvil on it.  Also speaking of Anvil, a good one is a god send.  The pieces of rail iron, are good for small projects, but a good sized anvil is a big help.  200lb, or more, if you can find one, but a hundred pound will suffice till you can get a bigger one.  You want the top of the anvil to be at your middle joint of your fingers.  Set the anvil on a good sturdy stump, or metal frame, or solid platform of 2x4's or 2x6', etc. nailed, or screwed together to form a base for the anvil. Just fold your fingers at the middle joint, and they should rest on the top of the anvil, and that will be your personal optimal working height.  I read where one noted blacksmith, said he thought that steel worked over charcoal made better steel, than the gas forges.  I don't know if this has to do with the charcoal imparting any carbon to the steel, while it is being heated, or not.  He said it was just his opinion, having used both methods.  Anyway, check out those sites, and good luck with the "Black" Art. ;)

                                    Wayne
Title: Re: ? about BLACKSMITH tools
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on November 12, 2014, 10:27:39 pm
OK thanks for the  info guys . i been watching  videos  and  lookin at all the tools used and uses for each one .  maybe ill fire it  up this weekend  and give it a try again   its go in to be in the 30s here so would be a grate time  to play around with it .
Title: Re: about BLACKSMITH tools/ first knife blanks
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on November 25, 2014, 11:19:12 pm
well i gave it a shot the other night and worked out 2 knife blanks for starters .did not turn out to bad i got one ruff shaped .i have a peace of rail road used is not smooth and gave the blades i neat look .
Title: Re: about BLACKSMITH tools/ first knife blanks
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on November 25, 2014, 11:23:58 pm
more pics 
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Post by: dueb on November 30, 2014, 12:13:55 pm
Cool shape, I like...  :D
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Post by: wildman on November 30, 2014, 10:13:25 pm
Nice !!!!
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Post by: jeffhalfrack on December 01, 2014, 10:03:56 pm
Man that one on the note book is going to be one handy blade dang! I like that!!good job JeffW
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on December 02, 2014, 11:07:39 pm
 thanks guys these are my first ever hand hammered knifes Ive  tried i hope they turn out .well add more pics as i go forword with them
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks
Post by: Parnell on December 04, 2014, 04:07:02 pm
That's very cool.  Something I hope to jump on this winter.
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on August 12, 2015, 03:59:56 pm
been away for  a while but  coming back and looking at all the nice knifes every one has  been posting . but a fire under my butt to finish sum of mine that has been setting  . so here is the first one i started  got a Lil tweaking  to do on it but over all is done . blade needs a good buffing . not perfect but as my first knife i have ever handforged and made on my own its grate to me .
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: mullet on August 12, 2015, 09:09:53 pm
Very nice knife, looks cool.
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Post by: sleek on August 12, 2015, 09:23:05 pm
Man if you could somehow get copper inside those hammer marks it would look even more amazing.
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on August 12, 2015, 09:37:55 pm
thanks guys and sleek i beleave you are right it would  so cool if you could  .
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: sleek on August 12, 2015, 09:42:05 pm
I vaguely recall you can use electrolysis or rubb it on somehow. It was in a kids science book from when I was learning how to get in trouble. Its not hard.
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: DC on August 12, 2015, 09:50:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoCyRQsDNco

Copper plating made easy
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: BOWMAN53 on August 13, 2015, 10:25:05 am
Awesome. Looks very rustic
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on August 13, 2015, 03:22:31 pm
thank you here are more that's in the works  win I'm able to finish them up .i live right beside a real road track  so there is more spikes then i could  handle . the one with the x on it is the one  that's done.
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: sleek on August 13, 2015, 06:55:48 pm
I sure hope you leave enough in the tracks for the train to be safe !  :o
Title: Re: first forged knife blanks + finshed knife
Post by: littlehunters19862011 on August 16, 2015, 01:25:18 am
lol yap  just  get my hands on the old ones that throw in the bushes bye the tracks