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Title: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: birdpointlightstring32 on November 12, 2014, 01:32:59 am
I am a full time parent, full time worker, and a no time bowyer. lol.  8) Just needed some hints on how to properly seat stave on tillering tree when first checking tiller. I have a snaky stave from a small diameter hickory sapling. my handle area is straight so I assume I can set a level there directly on top of the center of handle then pull the long string down to a low brace and just keep on checking the level to see if im not turned at an angle. just remembered reading the bent stick and using the extra string going straight across with the long string and measuring distance between the straight string and the back of stave at different points.  ::) .
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: jeffp51 on November 12, 2014, 02:02:03 am
I use one.  Seems to help.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: Del the cat on November 12, 2014, 03:00:20 am
NO! >:(
Because a bow doesn't sit square in you hand when you first take up strain on the string.
Because your hand supports the bow just below the point where you pull the string, a bow tilts upper limb pulls towards you when you first start to pull it.
Occasionally I'll set it up dead centre and dead centre pull if I'm unsure about something, but generally I try to mimic the real draw.
If you do it all central and level you can get a nasty shock when you see the real life draw
Del
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: mikekeswick on November 12, 2014, 03:10:56 am
No there is no need to use a level. Apart from when you initially making a tillering board or whatever.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: Holten101 on November 12, 2014, 03:52:49 am
No...nothing is ever level, uniform or even with selfbows anyways.

I measure total length, middle and use a string to help me with string alignment, thats it. It my personal opinion that  measuring should be avoided (or kept to a minimum) on selfbows....it blurs the feel, and hampers intuition.

Let the stave tell you what it wants:-)

Cheers (I realise how hippie I sound;-)
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: Pappy on November 12, 2014, 06:56:14 am
Never used a level, I just center it and level it by eye. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: blackhawk on November 12, 2014, 07:53:52 am
What's a tillering tree? What kind of tree is it? Can a bow be made from this type of tree ???  ::) ...... :laugh:
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 12, 2014, 09:01:47 am
You want the bow to tip back and forth, that's a good way to find balance in the end.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: sweeney3 on November 12, 2014, 09:59:01 am
I used a level when I nailed by 2x6 tillering tree to the window frame at the foot of my bed, just to get the "seat" (two screw in bow hanging hooks) level.  As far as leveling the prospective bow... No.  Just eyeball it and adjust.  Not much in nature is pipe straight anyway.  As long as the limbs bend decently it's good.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: Springbuck on November 12, 2014, 02:29:54 pm
  Some guys use straps and other setups to ensure the bow tilts on purpose if it is off.

I just stick it in about level, and shim it into a close approximation of where it would balance in my hand.  And I hold and pull the bow a couple inches even with the long string, just to see what happens.  My pulling string is designed to slide up and down the string if forces are really off,.and I can tell that way.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: bow101 on November 12, 2014, 03:03:11 pm
NO! >:(
Because a bow doesn't sit square in you hand when you first take up strain on the string.
Because your hand supports the bow just below the point where you pull the string, a bow tilts upper limb pulls towards you when you first start to pull it.
Occasionally I'll set it up dead centre and dead centre pull if I'm unsure about something, but generally I try to mimic the real draw.
If you do it all central and level you can get a nasty shock when you see the real life draw
Del

Thats why I use the glass mirror image with bow in hand.  Tiller stick is just for roughing 'er out and getting an ideal profile.
Title: Re: Does any use a level on the tillering tree first to correctly seat bow?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 12, 2014, 03:49:56 pm
No but I used to. It was a mistake. The stave just needs to balance. What i have done is remove wood so it balances evenly before I've started long string tillering.
That is assuming the handle is straight.
Jawge