Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Knoll on January 02, 2015, 02:58:37 pm
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I've made a few bows and look forward to many more. Been using a tillering stick to date, but got bopped on the noggin a few days ago. That brought me to my senses and am now figuring out where in my crowded garage/shop to setup a tillering tree.
It would be useful to read the considerations/descriptions and see the tillering tree setups ya'll are using.
Thanks!!
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Here is a pic of mine. The top hanger is a 3 dollar hose hook from harbor freight, with some nylon webbing straps from a couple old carseats I had laying around. Big copper bar from a box at work (work for the power company). You can't see it, but down at the bottom I have a pully and I have another on the scale. Just a yardstick hung on a nail behind it all to measure the length. I think the whole setup cost 10 bucks and about an hour or so of my time. I made it after taking a thump from one I broke on the tiller stick.
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I've been going completely off brace and set for a couple months but usually I use a mirror and a bow scale in my hand to know how far to draw. I plan on setting up a pully tree when I'm back in my shop for the really long draws I've done but mostly I plan on sticking with the mirror and scale.
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I have a removable winch (a block board mount) which I can use on mine, but I seldom do except for warbows.
I added a second pulley to give me 2:1 advantage making it easier to pull bows.Some pics here:-
http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/tiller-improvements.html (http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/tiller-improvements.html)
Some detail pics here:-
http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/copper-archer-has-bow.html (http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/copper-archer-has-bow.html)
Del
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Here is mine. Its a simple double pulley design. The grid helps me but drives Pearly nuts.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16218.jpg)
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Stupid grid...............
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Clean your shop floor and then we can talk grid removal Pearly
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Here's my set up...
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Thanks so much, fellas!
This'll be next project when I get over this $!(* flu/cold, whatever it is.
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This is my tiller tree. It is bolted to the block wall. The bar clamp is if I need it to stabilize an unbraced bow.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/forDon001-1.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/forDon001-1.jpg.html)
All you need is a block of wood, a pulley, an "S" hook and about 10' of nylon rope. How hard could that be. ;)
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Here's mine
(http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a439/willharrison347/0FAB8661-0A5C-4988-B986-A85C9B04E59B_zpslonl1ueu.jpg) (http://s1035.photobucket.com/user/willharrison347/media/0FAB8661-0A5C-4988-B986-A85C9B04E59B_zpslonl1ueu.jpg.html)
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I think Will is the winner O:)! Bob
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I think Will is the winner O:)! Bob
Or he would be if he could hold the camera straight ;) ::) ;D
Del
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I draw and take self video or photo.
I use my big game dial scale for checking the final poundage though.
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That's the first time I've noticed that del. I went back through my pics and all of em are like that ::)
Oops, oh well :)
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That's the first time I've noticed that del. I went back through my pics and all of em are like that ::)
Oops, oh well :)
I guess when your that tall your constantly swaying trying to keep your balance. ;)
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Cutting that beard off had to reduce some of that drag eh' Cody?
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That's the first time I've noticed that del. I went back through my pics and all of em are like that ::)
Oops, oh well :)
I guess when your that tall your constantly swaying trying to keep your balance. ;)
I never have that problem ;D
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That's the first time I've noticed that del. I went back through my pics and all of em are like that ::)
Oops, oh well :)
I guess when your that tall your constantly swaying trying to keep your balance. ;)
Oh! Now that really did make me laugh out loud... ;D
hey, I miss you guys :'( (Bwah bwah ;))
Del
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You know where to find us all in May, Del. ;)
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What do you suppose the primitives used?
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A tree branch or over their knee.
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blackboard paint
(http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140220_192942_583_zpss7rcgszp.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140220_192942_583_zpss7rcgszp.jpg.html)
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Here's mine. I eyeball the tiller. No grid.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/IMG_0025_zps6621a1d4.jpg) (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/jackcrafty/media/IMG_0025_zps6621a1d4.jpg.html)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/IMG_0027_zps83d5715c.jpg) (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/jackcrafty/media/IMG_0027_zps83d5715c.jpg.html)
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Patrtick .... think I like the doo-hickey on the string. Is it approx as wide as your string grip?
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blackboard paint
Clever idea!
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The grid helps me but drives Pearly nuts.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16218.jpg)
I'm a grid guy too. ;) I'm also unable to pat my head & rub my tummy at the same time.
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blackboard paint
Clever idea!
That way you could do police chalk outline of the limbs in between adjustments! Brilliant!
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I'm a grid guy too...until about 3-4" to full draw, then I'm a in the hand picture taking guy..
OO, great minds think alike, I swear, never saw your tree when I made mine..... ;D ;)
I've make a few modifications since that first bow. no more pegging the string..... use a pulley now and don't hold long.
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A police chalk outline would be appropriate for some of the bows ive murdered whilst tillering
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+1, been there done that wore out the reunion teeshirt
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Knoll, yes, it's the same width as my string grip.
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Simple pulley and scale with measurements in inches...Like to find my nock point and place a leather strap that simulates my three under...
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I draw the bow and have my wife snap a pic. I use a calibrated arrow to know my draw length and a scale for weight. There is a thin line center of my phone screen my wife uses to line up exactly with the arrow for perfe t photos every time. The I use the edges of my phone screen to line the tips up on. If one bend more than the other, one limb tip will touch my screen edge before the other. I thinking about making a laminated grip on my phone screen to remove when not in use. Then when looking at other peoples tillers I can judge it very well with a grid if I wanted too.
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Mine's portable.
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Mine's portable.
Portability is good. Do you have rope/pulley setup to pull the string?
Like the photos in background! Can't see the group pic well enough to determine what team it is. I had the LeMond pic in my garage when living in PA. Those were my competitive cycling years.
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Simple pulley and scale with measurements in inches...Like to find my nock point and place a leather strap that simulates my three under...
Don ... it appears your setup is not attached to the wall. How have you stabilized it?
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Thanks, again, for taking the time to post pics of your tillering setups. I have lotsa choices to pick/choose from!
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I need all the help I can get tillering so I use a grid- albeit a torn paper one taped to 1/4" OSB. No wall space in the shop so the tree is clamped either to the wood storage rack or to one of the legs of the work bench.
I like a fulcrum thingee to rest the bow on. A composite pics a bow on a fulcrum and on a flat one is below. The fulcrum really shows the bad tiller. ::)
c.d.
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Replying so I can remember to post mine tonight. :D
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Replying so I can remember to post mine tonight. :D
Someone has a memory similar to my own ..... ???
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Koll, there's a steel plate attached to the board and is locked into the vice...
Don
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Knoll, there's a steel plate attached to the board and is locked into the vice...
Don
And bench/table that vice is attached to is bolted/lagged to wall? Thanks!
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Yessir, or I would drag it all over the shop...
Don
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Its kind of strange its tough to get a bow thats between 62" and 66" to pull anywhere beyond 45#-55# .........@ 28". I don;t think I have seen a bow pulling 60# plus @28 with a NTN at 64". If so please direct me there.....?
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Its all in the width and thickness. I could build one in a few hours were I so inclined.
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Knoll,
Yes, the pulley and the weight scale are in the picture if you look closely.
That photo is the 1987 7-Eleven cycling team when Davis Phinney and Andy Hampsten were on it. I use to cycle and build racing frames back then.
George
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Good thread guy's, keep the pics coming! I'm planning on redoing mine asap! Patrick
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(http://i.imgur.com/ohhrBL7.jpg)
Here is mine without a bow on it. Sits behind my workbench.
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Nothing fancy about this one but it gets me by ok. :) Lots of bow have come and gone through this one. ;) :) Had some exciting times also with a couple of Yew/Sea grape/ERC/a few Ash and several more when I thin on it. :) Pappy
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Wow shan eyou are a neato!!! Wish I could keep my bench looking like that. Mine always looks like a bomb went off on it. I'll put a scraper down and pick up a rasp then spend 5 minutes trying to find the scraper again!!
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Wow shan eyou are a neato!!! Wish I could keep my bench looking like that. Mine always looks like a bomb went off on it. I'll put a scraper down and pick up a rasp then spend 5 minutes trying to find the scraper again!!
hahaha I just spent an hour or two cleaning in there this weekend. Normally never looks like that. Hadn't had a chance put shavings everywhere. :laugh:
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Wow shan eyou are a neato!!! Wish I could keep my bench looking like that. Mine always looks like a bomb went off on it. I'll put a scraper down and pick up a rasp then spend 5 minutes trying to find the scraper again!!
+1
I have that same scale! Patrick