Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: rockrush69 on January 17, 2015, 09:04:29 pm
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New sinew backed ash short bow . 65#@22" i love this ugly stick !!;)
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Nice, it always helps to have a pretty lady hold your bow for the pics
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Nice looking bow and profiles...Yank her back for us Jesse! Wanna see the bend man...
Don
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Great looking bow. Yep, show us the full draw.
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Show us fulldraw and a clear pic of the belly.
In my view, ash and sinew isnt the best combination.
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Nice looking bow. FULL DRAW PIC PLEASE. :)
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Show us fulldraw and a clear pic of the belly.
In my view, ash and sinew isnt the best combination.
Why would you say that? Ash was sinewed quite often by nAtive American bowyers? So was hickory.
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here is the ash at full draw I am not totally happy with the tailor but this bow shoots very accurately and it is done the bottom Lin bends more than the top limb and there was a knot in the middle of the bottom lip I don't want to mess with it anymore because it is shooting perfect it's actually shooting better than any of my other bows
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here is another full draw pic because it looks in the other one like there is a bad hinge in the bottom limb but it is an optical illusion because of the mirror frame behind mehowever the bottom limb does bend slightly more than the top limb which pisses me off lol
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there was a request to see a close up of the belly so here it is
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Belly
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Ash and sinew was most definitely a common combo on the northern plains. I hope that bit of a hinge isn't at the knot you mentioned. If it is that's gonna be a risk to the bow. Be sure to check for frets or other signs of damage as you shoot it. It would be a shame for it to fold up after all the effort of sinewing it. Josh
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Limb tips
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Yeah she's hinging on you a bit but I'm sure you leArned a lot when making this bow. Good effort.
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no that small tiny hinge is just below the knot about 2 inches however something weird is happening with this Bo I used one layer of hide glue on the sinEw and then went over it with tight bond 2 to help weather proof ... the other day I was out in the woods rabbit hunting and I took a few shots and I heard some small crackling noises so I inspected the backside of the bow and I found horizontal cracks in the glue only like 20 of them all the way across the whole entire Bo they don't seem to be cracking anymore it does not seem to be getting any worse and it has not lost any power I think it was just the tight bond cracking I have used Titebond a lot of times before but this is my first short bow and it also has a non binding handle and about 4 inches of static tips so,,, I may be stressing the limbs too much maybe it should only be drawn to like 18 inches even so it would still be about 50 poundsits my first time ever using a sh that's why I backed itI just moved up here to Wisconsin so I am learning all the wood up here Hickory does not grow in this area I am in Green Bay I have some white oak that I just got today and I have a maple log that I got a few days ago and I have one more ash staveand I have been collecting red Osier like crazy for arrows I also have a live oak short bow that I am about halfway done with so if this one breaks I've got some plans in the future for a lot more hopefully I am about to trade some rocks for a juniper stave and then I'm going to back that sucker with some white tail deer tendon and make a rocket launcher but I must say this ash shortbow is definitely a rocket launcher I may just be pulling it back a little too far I don't really know a lot about short bows I do know that my anchor. Is that my left shoulder and I'm very accurate like that like dead center bullseye from 15 yards every single shot with my bamboo and hardwood arrows my river cane arrows are all longer made for my Cherokee d Bow .... so I have not shot any of my river cane arrows out of this ashbo yet I also reflext the tips on the ashbo and the bottom Lim took the reflex in the top Lim did not either way it was a good learning experience if anyone knows why the glue is cracking please let me know :-)
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The cracking is more than likely because you used to much glue, Also don't cover your sinew with wood glue because the sinew will continue to cure over time and will stretch over the back of the bow adding tension. The wood glue will constrict this stretch and work against the sinew.
Your hide glue needs to be watery when applied, not thick, you do not need to go back and add more glue later. Also Do not use bottled liquid hide glue, use granulated or home made.
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I've had the cracking glue before. You've got it figured. The TBII won't stretch as far as the sinew glue matrix. Especially when its cold. I've also had tbIII do that on a rawhide back when it was cold. It was a bit of an eyesore but not real damage. As far as overdrawing it goes, that will show in set. By the picture, it looks like you're making her work, but not excessively so. Josh
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my next short bow is going to have much less of a pronounced to handle it may still be somewhat stiff in the handle but it will definitely been slightly in the handle and I'm not going to make the tips static that way I get more bending surface areathis is going to be a personal though anyways so if it breaks it will break on me in this backing should keep it from hurting me
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cool thank you gun. That makes me feel better and Thank You Indian for the advice I typically only use Knox gelatin for my hide glue and yes it only cracked when I took it out walking around in the freezing cold temperatures in the snow I probably should take a little bit of material off of the top of him so that it bends at least evenly with the bottom limb but it shoots so nice right now :-)
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I'm gonna have to second everybody on the hinge man, it's in every picture. Try looking at it upside down, trace its profile unbraced, braced, drawn, maybe use a tillering gizmo. You've got some weight to work with, might as well get the limbs bending more evenly right?
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Why would you say that? Ash was sinewed quite often by nAtive American bowyers? So was hickory.
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Well, maybe we should use the latin wood names :D
Im talking about fraxinus excelsior, the european ash, which is pretty weak at the belly.
I didnt expect the american ashes to be different, im sorry.