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Title: Urac ?
Post by: Mark Smeltzer on April 10, 2015, 09:16:00 pm
Is it true that you cant buy Urac anymore?
Has anyone tried the Unibond 800?
Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: TimothyR on April 10, 2015, 11:00:52 pm
It's true.  Unibond 800 replaced it. I have some but haven't used it yet. I'm sure someone will chim in on how well it works.. I would like to know if its true that it doesn't need heat to cure.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 10, 2015, 11:45:58 pm
I have been using Unibond, can't tell any difference between it and urac. It cures without heat, takes 7 hours at 70 degrees, an hour at 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Mark Smeltzer on April 11, 2015, 11:42:25 am
Thanks guys I guess Ill give Unibvond a try. I do have some Urac left I wonder what the shelf Life really is with it.

Mark
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Pat B on April 11, 2015, 12:17:00 pm
It depends on how its stored. I keep mine(Urac) in a frig and it seems to hold up pretty good. It was about 2 to 3 years old the last time I used it and that was 2 years ago. I haven't checked it lately.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on April 14, 2015, 08:12:19 pm
Weldwood plastic wood resin.  Less expensive, easier to keep, just as strong.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: RBLusthaus on April 15, 2015, 09:52:04 am
Weldwood plastic wood resin.  Less expensive, easier to keep, just as strong.
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Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Pat B on April 15, 2015, 09:59:08 am
I've used Weldwood Plastic Resin over the years and really like it for glue-ups. Cheap, easy to use and cleans up with water...but I heard somewhere that it has been or is being phased out.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Roy on April 15, 2015, 10:10:00 am
Unibond 800 is good stuff..

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Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: hedgeapple on April 15, 2015, 11:54:45 am
I've used Weldwood Plastic Resin a few times with no complaints.  But, I have a question about it?  It seems to always mix up a little gritty.  Is it supposed to be gritty?
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Pat B on April 15, 2015, 12:25:59 pm
It seemed a bit gritty to me also but so did Urac.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: RBLusthaus on April 15, 2015, 12:49:35 pm
yes, it mixes that way for me too.  Always works though.  I had some issues with URAC a few years back and switched to Weldwood even before it got discontinued.  Have been very happy with it and since it in powder form, if kept dry, it lasts indefinitely. 
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Pat B on April 15, 2015, 01:03:54 pm
...and its cheap. When I bought some a few years ago it was about $5 or a 1# tub from ACE Hardware.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Sidmand on April 15, 2015, 03:25:41 pm
Is weldwood a gap filling glue, suitable for Ipe to bamboo?  I've been using Titebond, but there is some extra prepwork with that cause everything has to be super smooth to get a good glueline.  I'm going to look up the properties, but I'd like to hear from people who have used it - do you need to acetone the Ipe, how smooth do you really need it to be, etc?
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Pat B on April 15, 2015, 04:01:22 pm
It should work well with boo/ipe. It is a gap filing glue. I toothed both surfaces and glued it up. I think fresh wood is a better 
"de-greaser" than acetone or other solvents so sand both glue surfaces, tooth them, blow off the dust and glue it up. I've used a toothing plane and hacksaw blades on the glue surfaces, both with good results.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: Sidmand on April 15, 2015, 04:08:31 pm
It should work well with boo/ipe. It is a gap filing glue. I toothed both surfaces and glued it up. I think fresh wood is a better 
"de-greaser" than acetone or other solvents so sand both glue surfaces, tooth them, blow off the dust and glue it up. I've used a toothing plane and hacksaw blades on the glue surfaces, both with good results.

Got it, thank you!!  I've seen that glue in the big box stores and always wondered if it would work well, guess I need to try it now.
Title: Re: Urac ?
Post by: RBLusthaus on April 15, 2015, 04:26:30 pm
I agree with Pat - - it is gap filling to a point, and I dont degrease.  Rough up the surface with hacksaw blade - brush away dust and glue.  Ipe - boo is usually what I use it for.  Also ipe to ipe (handles).