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Title: young pups
Post by: bubby on May 29, 2015, 11:03:48 am
My bro in law found a couple yote pups in his irrigation pipe(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0591_zpstaxwccuw.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0591_zpstaxwccuw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Josh B on May 29, 2015, 11:16:58 am
Cute little booger!  They can be a bit fiesty if you try to catch one.  I found out the hard way. :o.  Josh
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: DC on May 29, 2015, 07:45:43 pm
I saw one on the side of the road years ago. I stopped and tried to entice it with some bacon. It was really interested but I couldn't get any closer than ten feet or so. If I moved closer, it moved away. After about ten minutes I finally threw it the bacon. It grabbed it and was gone.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Trapper Rob on May 30, 2015, 09:00:53 am
Do you guys get rid of them out there when you can.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 30, 2015, 02:39:50 pm
LOL! That's funny!  140 years of trying to extirpate the song doggie and we got as many now as ever. In fact, we have them in states where they never existed before!

SDGF&P did a lot of research on 'yote population and the effects on hunting them.  Increased hunting pressure caused the coyote populations to rise and litters of pups went from 2-3 per litter to up to 8 per litter.  Also noted were the increases in livestock predation. What they learned was that stable populations with little or no hunting pressure led to lowered populations and larger hunting territories.  This was because the 'yotes could hunt day or night for their normal prey base...small rodents, snakes, bugs, and the like. Hunting pressure reduced their "comfort" level with typical foraging and encouraged them to take larger prey at higher risk levels in order to obtain greater rewards for less exposure to shooting.  The reduced territorial acreage meant more territories available, and an increase in numbers!

A new model of depredation control involves leaving them the heck alone unless a mated pair begins to take livestock.  They will teach their pups those techniques, so by culling those problem doggies and leaving others alone tends to reinforce normal behavior of focusing on small prey. 

I've enjoyed plenty of hours watching a Wiley mousing in a pasture or hay field.  Several times it has been within a flock of sheep, taking advantage of the sheep disturbing the mice, I surmised. Love 'em or hate 'em, you gotta give them a lot of respect for their adaptability and cleverness. 
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: sleek on May 30, 2015, 02:53:11 pm
I love dogs, yotes, fox, domestic, doesnt matter.  Id hate to shoot one. Specially a pup. I know plenty of folks of the other opinion. Shame yotes and fox seem to cause farmers such a hassle.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Chippintuff on May 30, 2015, 03:38:40 pm
Several years ago I began seeing a grown coyote stealing pears from under my very productive tree in the backyard late at night. It would approach a pear cautiously, stand over it looking around for danger, then snatch the pear and be gone. Within 2-3 minutes it would be back. I told my wife that it was feeding pups, and we both watched them that summer. Before long mama and some half grown pups were there every night snatching pears and racing for cover. Normally I would have shot any coyote on the spot, but those won our hearts.

WA
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: sleek on May 30, 2015, 03:44:26 pm
To bad we caint tame them.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: DC on May 30, 2015, 03:48:46 pm
There's none on Vancouver Island--- yet. They must not swim well. The occasional grizzly makes it but they seem to starve.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Pappy on June 01, 2015, 08:12:53 am
We don't hunt them JW, but the population has really grown over the years.( must be deer population has grown which increasing food supply) Fox population has went way down also. Don't shoot fox but I shoot song dogs on site.  ;) Cute by the way bubby, problem is they grow up. >:(
  Pappy
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: JW_Halverson on June 01, 2015, 11:02:50 am
Coyotes are not native to Tennessee are they?
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Pat B on June 01, 2015, 11:14:35 am
I read a study a few years ago that stated if you shot an alpha male the pack would go into a breeding frenzy to create a new alpha male.
 Also, in another article, the coyotes in the Eastern US came from supposedly sterile coyotes that were released by fox hunters. I guess they didn't closely check them all.  ::)
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Pappy on June 02, 2015, 05:32:05 am
Not sure JW if we ever had any years ago, we didn't have any when I was a kid, but we got plenty now. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Knoll on June 02, 2015, 11:49:59 am
Suburbs just outside Chicago are well stocked with yotes now.  Some have been electronically "collared" so their travels can be monitored and posted on forest preserve websites.  It's interesting to observe how they get around, largely unseen, in such densely people-populated areas.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Will Tell on June 09, 2015, 12:59:20 pm
Got to see two Red Fox kits while spring turkey hunting this year. Was the highlight of the season.
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 10, 2015, 12:05:13 pm
We did not have any when I was young then we got over run with them a while back
The big gray ones came in from the east and the smaller red ones from the west and they collided in our area now we have all colors but the bid black ones stand out as the meanest ones
they about decimated our fox population but once things settled out some we began to see the  fox population come back up a bit not near what it was but at least they are hanging on I would rather have the foxes , but it is what it is
Title: Re: young pups
Post by: stickbender on June 11, 2015, 02:12:34 pm

     Florida is loaded with them.

                                    Wayne

Title: Re: young pups
Post by: mullet on June 11, 2015, 09:48:24 pm
We have signs in the park in town now that warn people to keep their pets on a leash. I had one in my front yard one morning and I live one block off the main Drag.
I know for a fact a large, fenced piece of property in the Green Swamp was stocked with 'yotes for the fox hunters. They are everywhere in the Swamp, now. Got one there with my bow last year.