Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: DC on June 02, 2015, 12:52:32 pm
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Is there any point in making dipping tubes for my own arrows or does a brush work just as well. I might make a dozen or two a year.
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I stopped using a dipping tube a while back because they were messy. I found that wiping on the paint or urethane with a rag or paper towel was quicker and bit cleaner over all and gave great results with the finish. I have never had a problem with bubbles, runs or an overly thick finish.
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I kind of thought so. I have seen tubes with a rubber scraper (rubber with a hole in it) but I thought that might scrape it too clean. I'm using bamboo arrows though so the scraper probably wouldn't work with the taper.
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I use Tru-Oil on boo arrows and wipe it on with my finger, same as with a bow
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I used the dipping tube from 3R and their recommended gasket lacquer. Dozen arrows, three dips per arrow, 15 minutes max....IF I HADN'T HAD ANY COFFEE AND WAS SERIOUSLY SLUGGISH! Bang, done, move on.
Three dips leaves you with a beautiful glossy finish that is fairly tough.
Now for the negatives. If an arrow spends a little time in the grass and there is any moisture, the wood will swell and the finish will crack and peel off. If you have to use a little heat to correct a bend in an arrow, the finish will immediately erupt in bubbles and you will have to scrape down the entire arrow to start over.
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One of my concerns was the thickness of the lacquer. While I've been waiting for responses I made a coupla arra's(I'm larning Southish). I used toilet paper to apply the stain and clear. Worked great. Not the crappy job you'd expect ;) ;) ;). A little stain on my fingers but no spills or messes.
There ya go JW, I'm sure I left you an opening or two in there >:D
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It must be some kinda of crappy job if the toilet paper is leaving stains on your fingers!
(how was that?)
You can leave off with just two coats of the gasket lacquer and it isn't terrible thick. I was just caught up in the "shinier is prettier" thing there for a while. I did one set of presentation arrows with 6 coats of gasket lacqer and they positively looked like they were encased in Lucite or glass tubes!!!
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I'm kind of going for a primitive/ Oriental look. If I want arrows that look like plastic I'll use CF.
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I just use Polyurethane. Wipe it on, let it dry. Buff it with 0000 steel wool. Repeat 3 times. finish is tough, but pretty.
If I want a painted cap, I mask and use spray paint. (Rattle-can dip)
The only time I dip, is when someone wants swirl-painted shafts. Usually kids. ;)
---Ford---
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The last few years I've been finishing cane arrows like this. I might dip the 8" or so on the nock end,but for the rest of the arrow,I put it on my homemade crester and apply the finish with a brush.You can put it on pretty thick,and the crester keeps the finish spread evenly. I even apply spar varnish like this.Just let it rotate long enough that it does'nt run. I like being able to apply a thick coat to increase arrow weight. Works good for me. God Bless
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Dipping tubes are a mess!!!
Spray or better yet hand rub finish...................never brushed a hole arrow.
You've got to decide if you want pretty arrows or practical arrows.
DBar
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I use pitch varnish on primitive arrows. Pitch dissolved in alcohol, pretty simple. I use it for sinew wraps on arrows too.
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I want beautiful arrows. Primitive practical arrows. But finished nice, no super slick plastic looking things. Know what I mean ;D ;D ;D Arrows that get lost first time you shoot them outdoors >:( >:(
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I bought a bunch of make-up removal pads at the dollar store. They work fine.
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That sounds like a good idea.......I'm going to rob my wife's stash and try them... >:D
DBar
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The results of my efforts. I'm experimenting with the stain, that's why they're different.
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They look pretty good, can we get a close up of the points..................
Thanks
Dbar
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There ya go! They are made of duplex nails with a piece of aluminum pressed on and turned. I was trying different shapes to stop them from bouncing out of the targets at the range. Then they got new targets
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I really like duplex points, and this is very interesting :-\ :-\...............did they make a difference at the range?
DBar
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The long ones penetrated a bit better but not much. The new targets let all of them stick in. My bow is about 35#. The new targets have a very strong skin and the wrapping behind the point would hang up on the it when I was removing the arrows. I turned a little notch in the arrow shaft so the thread would be flush with the surface. CA and sandpaper make it real smooth and the arrows come out one-handed. I'm a little concerned that the notch will compromise the shaft strength but there is still 2" of nail inside. So far so good.