Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Justin Snyder on February 05, 2008, 06:18:52 pm
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Here is my new hunting bow I finished last week. It is the first real bend in the handle bow I have made and has a D cross section. It is from an Ipe board Bob gave me. The handle is horse leather sewn with red thread to match the FF string. I didn't want to put a saddle on a cheetah. It is 69" NTN 3/4" wide at the grip and 3/8"wide at the tips. The pin nocks are 1/8" wide. It draws 65# at 29". It is smooth drawing and incredibly fast. Justin
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Here are braced and full draw.
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Very nice Justin.
very nice tiller and i bet its fast
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Its unbacked? Beautiful stuff
Dave
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Wow Justin where's the bamboo? ;D Looks great! I wonder if some of the osage nazi /famous bowyers who used to say publicly that ipe was crap are lurking on these forums...
3/4" and 65#'s ;) Very cool!
Rich-loves osage, and an open mind...
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Gotta love those pin nocks... strong and simple. Kinda like me, arr, arr.
Justin, you crack me up, man!!! Saddle on a cheetah. Hee Haw.
Nice bow. I like ipe. Nice tiller.
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Nice spear. Now where's the bow?
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I can't believe how narrow you got it, and unbacked. I'm impressed!
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Thanks everyone
Dave, yes unbacked
Rich, boo is on the other one. I like an open mind too.
abd, I would love to take credit for the saddle on a cheetah, but I stole the line from Rich Saffold on the string thread.
Justin
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Lennie, that is funny. Shouldn't be to much work to carry around should it.
Thanks Gordon, yes 3/4"; a good piece of Ipe really does work miracles. Justin
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I'm impressed with its simple functional appearance Justin.
Reminds me that a good hunting bow needs to be kept simple
and not all gussied up. She ought to make meat as she was designed to do.
Very well done Justin! Me like ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Ya did nice on this. Me likes, course Iam not TOO prejudiced towards unbacked ipe bows an d-bows. ::) Fast aint she - ya likes it I see ! Nice workmanship Justin, good job......bob
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holy ####, excellent job. guess im gonna have to break down and finish a bow now ;D
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Thanks Dana, you like my plain Jane hunting bow??
Bob, thank you for the compliments and the wood. I can see why you like the D-bow so much. I cant believe it took me so long to make one. ::)
Jamie, Ill take that as a compliment. Yes, you better get to building. Justin
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Simple, efficient, deadly whats not to like about those qualities ;D
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Swee... (a google of e's)... eeet :o! Those old tropical board longbows are simply amazing :)!
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How do you tell the grain on that wood? I suppose you knew this piece would make a selfbow? And a beautiful one at that.
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Nice job Justin. The tiller looks good, but it appears different from the top to bottom limb. Maybe your just canting it a bit in the picture. :)
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Lennie, that is the trick. Yes, I knew it would make a self bow. When it is greased up you can see the grain some. More than that I could feel the grain while I was working it. Here is a picture of the limb where you can see the grain if you get just right. If you look at the tip of the pin you will see it has a knot in it. I didn't know the knot was there until I felt it with my scraper. The limb is about 5/8" wide at the knot. This wood was brought back from South America by a friend of Bob, so it might be a little better than average.
Ryan, I was trying to get a picture in the house using a box to hold the camera. Just getting it in focus was my main goal. ;) Justin
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Man, when I saw the first picture, I didn't know it was the front for a little while because it was so narrow.
Nice job, Justin.
Sean
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Good looking bow, Justin. Simple=good. Nice bend on it, looks like it's just waiting to be pointed at a deer.
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That is fine looking bow. My very first bow is Ipe but I couldn't see the grain. So I had a lot of trouble with splinters which I controlled with electrical tape. Still have the bow but I haven't shot it for a long time.
Your bow is, of course, bookmarked for Feb Self Bow of the Month.
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Thanks Sean, to tell you the truth, if the pictures weren't labeled I would have to look a lot harder to see which was front and which was side.
Steve thanks, simple bows for us simple folks. ;) Ill get it will kill a simple deer. 8)
Don, I appreciate your kind words. I couldn't really see the grain without some work. Once I started working I could feel it more than see it. Justin
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I love it - great bow man! Definitely something I'd want to be sneaking through the woods with!!!
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That's damned nice Justin - I keep reading on here that epe is for skinny bows, by the deminsions you got there with the poundage I'd say so :). Will have to lay my hands on some of that one day. Oh, tiller looks spot on too...
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Nice job. Great looking bow. Jawge
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Justin,did you chase a ring,or, are there run-offs? Beautiful bow. Thanks, God Bless , PeteC
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Thanks Mike
Paul, definitely good for skinny bows. But then Bob and Rich have been telling us that all along. ;)
George, I'm glad you like it.
Pete, honestly I can see the grain enough to tell it is running the right direction, but not well enough to see how much run off there is. It appears to be ring bias. I can say that it is mostly straight grained. Justin
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Nice tooth pic! ;D Ipe is almost as good as osage...almost! ;) Pat
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Hi Justin, I'm impressed. It's a beautiful bow. I think more and more ipe bows are going to be showing up, but I don't think it's possible to top yours. Ron
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that is one nice bow. Do you think it performs as well without a bamboo backing? No doubt its cooler without. I thought bamboo would help with the weight issue but being only 3/4 it must be really light. It does remind me of a spear. Sharpen up those pin nocks and you could get the deer at close range. :D Jesse
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Wow great work Justin .You gonna bring it to the classic so we can stare at it a bit ?
Ralph
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Beautiful bow justin,that is a sleek one.Nice job. :)
Pappy
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Pat, hmmm :-X
Thanks, Ron I appreciate the kindness.
Jesse, It performs amazing without the boo backing. With a boo backing you can loose about 10% of the weight which translates to 1.7 oz in this case. I could have brought some reflex in but other than that I don't think the performance would have increased significantly.
Thanks Ralph, I don't know if I will be there.
Pappy, sleek and curvy just how we like them. Justin
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Sleek, pretty bow Justin. Have you flight shot it for distance yet? I would be in tropuble here, it would be hard to step off the distance in this deep snow.Any way good job, would be intresting to see how it compares with your other bows for distance. Kenneth
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Thanks Kenneth. I am kind of curious myself. I suspect Badger would be interested in the speed and distance also. I will go shoot it through a chrono today and shoot it at the park behind the house as soon as there is nobody around. ;D Justin
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You read my mind Justin!! What weight arrows will you be testing with? If it were in the self bow broadhead class you would be using 500 grain arrows for any weight bow. Steve
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I don't know what I even have any more. Ill get as close to 500 grain as possible. I need to make me some that are 500 gr for just this occasion. Justin
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Hey Justin,
Been busy at work the last few days staying out in the shop and just now saw you had this bow posted. I like it! Tiller looks good and had to be tough with those narrow limbs. I think the third bow I ever made was a bend through the handle due to the stave I had...haven't made one since.
Good job! ;)
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justin, I don't know how I missed this. That bow looks fine. I've been trading my butt off for Ipe lately, I really like it. I've got that stave's sister in the shop, thanks again Bob. I's going to be an unbacked ELB with horn knocks. Nice Bow.
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Thanks Greg, now slow down and taste the taters. (I knew you couldn't relate to smell the roses.) ;)
Eddie, that stave/board you have is exceptional quality. It ought to make a great ELB. The horn nocks will be on the dainty side. Thanks for the kind words. Justin
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Justin, That's a great looking bow. I'm particularly impressed with the fact that you got away without backing it. When I first started building bows I tried a couple unbacked Ipe bows but I don't think I knew enough to spot a bad board and ended up with sharp, toxic splinters, and one or two 40 lb. bows. The weight and dimensions make your bow is a triumph among unbacked board bows. I like the simplicity and the design--including the tiller. Do you notice any kick in the hand?
J. D.
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Thanks JD, There is no noticeable hand shock. It is one of the smoothest, sweetest shooting bows I have ever shot. That is the biggest reason why it will be my new hunting bow. Justin
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Great bow, Justin. It looks very spry. :) I especially like the nocks. Yeah, definitely bring it to the Classic.
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Even within Ipe there's a vast variety (100 sub-species), I have made similar bows to Justin's out of pieces which have no business making a bow, and other pieces a little run-off and its history...
Favoring the back by trapping the belly in these situations give you a better shot if you find your piece has a run-off mid-limb...
Rich-
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Thanks Dingleberry.
Rich, you are so right. I have some other Ipe that doesn't even hold a candle to this wood from Bob. It is still strong, but not the same thing. The other stuff came together, but there is a huge difference even in it. Justin
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Nice bow justin. marlon
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Thanks Marlon
Where you been hiding? I don't see you around much. Justin
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Thanks justin Yes been hideing ;D Marlon
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Great looing piece of work, I like the grain and the color of the wood. as usual tiller looks excellent, any special reason you chose the pin nocks? I like them.
VB
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VB, I wanted to eliminate any extra weight and go with something simple not extravegant on such a simple bow. I think that pin nocks are about as light and simple looking as you can get. Justin
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Justin, great work. It looks reeall nice! Wells
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Thanks Wells, Justin
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OK Steve, I finally got a couple of arrows made that are 500 gr so I could get a speed. 191 fps
Justin
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:o :o :o :o :o :o hmm was wonderin' about 650 gr. arras. Sorry mind always goes ta these things ....bob
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Justin, that would put you within shooting distance of the current world record, helf by Jerimia, You would possibly need to draw it back about another 1" to hit 270 yards but I think as it stands right now at 191 fps with just a light favorable breeze you would hit about 260 to 270. Excelent bow. Goes to show that a 65# bow can compete against 80# bows. Steve
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Ya that is smoking for a selfbow ;D..
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Justin Snyder-Breaks World Record!!!!
Geez not sure they make a hat that big ;) ;D
Dang nice bow Justin
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Wow :o
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Justin, that would put you within shooting distance of the current world record, held by Jerimia, You would possibly need to draw it back about another 1" to hit 270 yards but I think as it stands right now at 191 fps with just a light favorable breeze you would hit about 260 to 270. Excelent bow. Goes to show that a 65# bow can compete against 80# bows. Steve
Steve, my arrows are plenty long to draw farther, I just didn't want it to take set. I could probably get away with pulling it to 30-31" once or twice without much harm. Maybe I better try it. Justin
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wow thats fast. id have to draw a bow with my feet to get that kinda power stroke ;D
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wow thats fast. id have to draw a bow with my feet to get that kinda power stroke ;D
;D I can get to 31 without pulling past my anchor if I really open up my draw. :o Justin
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So ya gonna take it to the salt flats and outshoot badger :o :o :o
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That rich dark color,...Ipe's gotta be one of the most beautuful bowwoods, good job justin, an elegant sleek bow,...but what are you thinking using it for hunting ? don't you know those longbows are no good ;)
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Thanks Manny... Yes I know they are useless, but that makes them equal to my shooting ability. ;D