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Title: Short bows
Post by: John R on February 06, 2008, 02:21:26 am

Being new, I don't want to add a bunch of threads, so I titled this one short bows so others can post pics of their non longbows. I just remembered I had this little bugger sitting in a corner. It's a sinew backed white oak, 44" kind of paddle bow creature with bent tips and a sinew string. It pulls over 50 pounds at around 22 inches I'm guessing and spits an arrow really well. I originally made it to fit in a black ash strip quiver I made last summer along with it's arrows that are almost as long as the bow.

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: michbowguy on February 06, 2008, 02:28:43 am

man i realy like the looks of that one!
nice.
jamie

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: El Destructo on February 06, 2008, 02:37:24 am

Well John You ought to remember this one....you sent me the Stave...It's an Ash Stave Bow that I backed (for the first time in my life!!) with three layers of Sinew...slightly recurved the Tips on it....it's 56 inches long ....2 inches at the Fades....tapering to 3/4 inch Tips....Draw Weight is 74 pounds at 27 inches.....it's a Beast and I love it

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Keenan on February 06, 2008, 03:24:45 am

  Like Jamie said that looks nice.  I don't remember the exact length, but this one had all natural bends. (Cascara)  For such a short little guy it's would really fling an arrow.   Keenan

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Hillbilly on February 06, 2008, 09:28:48 am

Nice work, guys. Those are some great looking bows.

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Being new, I don't want to add a bunch of threads,

We like threads, and we love pics. Don't hesitate to post until your fingers are sore from typing and clicking the "add attachments" button.  ;D

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Asiertxu on February 06, 2008, 10:47:35 am

Hey Kennan!!

That is a SUPER COOL bow mate!!  REALLY LIKE THAT!!.. 8) 8) :)...
One day I hope to make all natural curved shortie myself!!

Thanks guys for these cool little bow pictures, VERY cool bows fellas!!

Cheers...

Asier.

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 06, 2008, 10:48:26 am

Those do look great guys.  Keenan, I love the profile of the log, I see why you left it. Justin

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Asiertxu on February 06, 2008, 10:53:14 am

Ah Keenan,

Do you have a full draw picture taken from one side of that one??
It could be REAL INTERESTING to see how far can be drawn and  how look´s the profile when draw that one... ;) :)...

Thanks fellow...

Asier.

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: donnieonetrack on February 06, 2008, 01:22:27 pm

52" 55#@27" sinew backed osage

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: donnieonetrack on February 06, 2008, 01:49:24 pm

Same bow as above,  now that I can add photos I'll try to get photos of more bows.

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: John R on February 07, 2008, 01:35:18 pm

Sweet! Sweet! Great bows. Awesome. Yankeemongiat and his wife think I'm weird, but any of those great bows would work for my master plan: I lost out on a yew stave on eBay at the minute and wound up buying a unicycle. I can't afford a horse, so.. We'll ya know where this is going. Even the folks on the unicycle message board think hunting deer on one wheel is a freakish idear.. Oh yeah, those are all way cool bows!!!!!

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Woodland Roamer on February 07, 2008, 01:38:15 pm

Those are some really nice short bows everyone!

Alan

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 07, 2008, 02:22:29 pm

Here is a 54 in. Hickory and a 58 in sinew backed Osage.I like the short bow for hunting.
   Pappy

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: GregB on February 07, 2008, 02:59:16 pm

Great lookin' bows everyone! ;)

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: TRACY on February 07, 2008, 03:43:56 pm

Pappy, are those carp skins and if so how easy/difficult compared to snake skins?

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: david w. on February 07, 2008, 11:46:50 pm

30# @ 16"

38" ntn

oak backed with paper bags

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: 1/2primitive on February 08, 2008, 12:44:47 am

43" Osage selfbow, 50lb@24".

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n236/Thebowguy/000_0009-3.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n236/Thebowguy/000_0005-4.jpg

    Sean

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 08, 2008, 06:40:11 am

Yes it is Carp,It is about like putting on Rawhide.Lot thicker and stiffer than snake. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Keenan on February 08, 2008, 07:54:58 am

 Wow, sure love all them shorties.  Pappy that looks like a screamer.  Keenan

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 08, 2008, 08:12:36 am

It is a screamer but a little harder for me to shoot that one a little longer.Sean cool bow :)
now thats a short one.Here is the Hickory at full draw,nice in a tree stand and ground blind.
    Pappy

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: El Destructo on February 08, 2008, 09:17:22 am

Pappy....where do you get the Grass Carp that are long enough to do a whole Limb??? We have Carp here....but not nearly long enough to use two skins to do a Bow

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 08, 2008, 10:51:11 am

These came from Mickey Lotzs,but we have carp that big around here,I just haven't
went after them in a while.Now that I see how they work I plan to this spring while they
are spawning.  :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: TRACY on February 08, 2008, 10:55:00 am

Thanks Pappy. That looks like a real good bow for taking a turkey with also!

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Dingleberry on February 08, 2008, 12:26:56 pm

Sweet bows everybody. :)  I've never made a shorter bow, but now want to lookin at yalls.  Hey Pappy, what are the dimensions on that hickory 54"er?

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: JackCrafty on February 08, 2008, 01:06:12 pm

Awesome!  :o

Great bows.......and I just knew there had to be a good reason to go carp fishin'.... ;D

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 08, 2008, 01:34:51 pm

Its 1 7/8 to mid limb and then tapered to the tips.I only used a 4 in. handle just to save some limb.
I also only made the fads 1 inch for the same reason.It is a non bending handle.  :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Far East Archer on February 08, 2008, 07:53:19 pm

Wow Keenan! Your bow looks almost exactly like Korean hornbow! Very nice and I still cant believe how you find wood with such shape, amazing!

-Alex

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on February 09, 2008, 05:44:51 am

Little Guava shortbow, 56 1/2" ntn 56# @ 27"

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/lava%20ambush/DSCF0009.jpg)

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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/lava%20ambush/DSCF0022.jpg)

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: bowmo on February 09, 2008, 10:39:47 pm

This is fun!

Working osage recurve that bends in the handle. 49" and only backed with rattlesnake skins, pulls 40# at 27". First bow I ever built from a stave.

dan

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: mole on February 10, 2008, 02:12:43 am

Here's one that my buddy Bruce did with a little help from me.  38" sinew backed osage.  1" wide at the handle and 45# @ 23".  Buckskin handle wrap and beaver fur on the limbs.

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Pulled to about 20".
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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 11, 2008, 09:39:15 am

Somemore fine looking short bows.Very nice. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pappy on February 12, 2008, 06:47:49 am

Here is another short one I built last year.It is a little over an inch wide almost full length and
52 n-n slight bend in the handle.53@25.Shoots nice.
   Pappy

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: OldBow on February 13, 2008, 02:13:18 pm

Got your short ash bow bookmarked for February Self Bow of the Month.  Good job and you opened up a very good thread. Keenan's Cascara is one of my favorites. :-*

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: El Destructo on February 13, 2008, 09:57:40 pm

Quote from: Pappy on February 08, 2008, 10:51:11 am

These came from Mickey Lotzs,but we have carp that big around here,I just haven't
went after them in a while.Now that I see how they work I plan to this spring while they
are spawning.  :)
   Pappy

Pappy when you get some....lets do some trading...I would really like to try a set of them greasy Hides!!

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Keenan on February 13, 2008, 11:18:22 pm

 Manny; I remember that bow very well. That was one of my favorites that you have made.

 As Oldbow said, This is a really neat thread. Love them shorties.
 
 Thanks Oldbow and others for the compliments,   That little cascara has me always looking for natural formations.   Keenan

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: juniper junkie on February 13, 2008, 11:59:31 pm

some really cool bows! Keenan likes it when I make short bows cuz he can shoot them a lot better than me, and he sometimes ends up with them ;D here is a pic of a sinew backed yew, northern california style, it is 46" and 50#@20" a real screamer, but my draw is too long to shoot it accurately. (no Keenan, you cant have it 8))

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Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: D. Tiller on February 14, 2008, 12:46:01 am

Dave!  If Kennan cant have it can I?????  ;D  I hope to make one similar to that one some day.

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Keenan on February 14, 2008, 03:07:36 am

 Dave ,whats up bro I thought we was buds ;D ;D ;D  I told ya you just keep them shorties coming and I'll start working on soome good old long bows that you can draw ;D >:D   Keenan

 Ps. nice bow

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: OldBow on February 16, 2008, 02:57:51 pm

One of you wordsmiths ought to write up this thread for PA.  
It has lots of great narratives and pictures.

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: El Destructo on February 17, 2008, 02:40:48 am

Too bad the Guy that started this Thread felt like He didn't and couldn't belong....and pulled His Membership :(

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Sidewinder on February 17, 2008, 04:48:01 am

Gosh guys after looking at all those great shorties I do believe I shall try one afer I get a few stave bows under my belt, although I have been leaning in the 64"-66" range since I started. I figure to do a shorty pyramid osage.Maybe 55"  What do you guys think. I pull 26" so thats not real long. Should'nt be a danger at 50# should it? Maybe let it bend in the handle some so I don't have to back it and I can get the whole limb working.   Danny

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: juniper junkie on February 17, 2008, 01:02:10 pm

if you are going to build short bows, it would be a good idea to keep the belly somewhat flat to distribute the tension force. a pyramid design concentrates the compresion more. just a thought, see what some of the others think. ;)

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Pat B on February 17, 2008, 01:15:04 pm

Danny, Going from 64"-66" I would try a 60" first. I have built a few 60"er now(osage) with stiff handles that pulled 55#@26"...1 3/8" at the fades and out to 3/8" tips. By moving slowly to shorter bows you will be able to finesse tiller more smoothly than with an abrupt length change. I am now considering shorter bows for the future just to see if I can but I'm leaning back towards a 64" to 66" straight limbed bow for my next years hunting bow.   Pat

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: michbowguy on February 17, 2008, 02:52:31 pm

man i love looking at these awesome primitive bows!
jamie

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: Sidewinder on February 18, 2008, 03:44:09 pm

Thanks Pat, I'll take that into consideration. Maybe make the next one. 64 then 62 then 60. that ought to get me going in the right direction.  Danny

Title: Re: Short bows
Post by: 1/2primitive on February 18, 2008, 10:59:28 pm

Okay, I've got another one to add.  ;D   I just posted it on the main board. Osage, 48"ntn, 46lb@24". Shoots well.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n236/Thebowguy/100_0157.jpg
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http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n236/Thebowguy/100_0154.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n236/Thebowguy/100_0145.jpg

      Sean