Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Little John on August 16, 2015, 11:40:09 am
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I have not seen where hardly anyone is planning any primitive hunts this year. Surely we are all about ready to head out into the woods after bow killed game. Lets hear about your plans and dreams for this years season. I hope we all harvest some of natures bounty in a rewarding and traditional experience. Kenneth
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I actually am on my way back from a hunting trip to SC now. I didn't get anything but I did get to watch some deer and that's enough for me. Planning to head back up next weekend and get everything ready for when I decide I wanna hunt with the selfbow(which will probably be next weekend). This season id just like to kill a deer, any deer, as the saying goes"you can't eat horns".
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In Sept. I am heading out to long island in willapa bay here in the rainforest of coastal washington state. It is a bow hunting only unit, accessable only by boat. The island is 5x2 miles, and has deer, elk, bear. theres also a grove of old ceadars there, 15 foot diameter! Gonna spend a week out there camping.
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I'm bowhunting with a primitive bow this year, this will be my second year doing so. The archery season doesn't begin until September 12 in WI but I'm a little behind in preparation. In October I'll be going on my first black bear hunt in Maine but I'll be using a rifle for that hunt. The rest of the archery season I'll use every opportunity I can get to be out in the woods with my bow. My goal is just to take a legal animal with a primitive bow. One of my hang-ups right now is whether or not I should use a bow that I made or one that I bought. I have 3 primitive bows, only one I have made and it is my weakest bow and has the slowest cast but I'm most accurate with it. I have been shooting a 50# Rudderbows hickory ELB for the past two months to build up my strength but I'm more accurate up to 15 yards with the 40# cherry bark-backed red oak ELB I made last year, my first bow, at 20 yards though my 50# bow is more accurate for me. I feel like the 40# would be the better choice but I can't get this quote from a chapter written by Stewart Edward White out of 'Hunting with the Bow & Arrow' out of my head: 'Do not linger with a weak bow simply because it is easier to draw...". I'll have to make that decision soon.
Good luck to all the hunters out there,
Aaron
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I plan to go on a few hunts in GA and SC this year, Kenneth. I do wish I was coming back out to hunt with you again. Real estate is picking up so maybe next year. ;)
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I rarely do any huntin=g other than local any more. I start my new season as soon as our old one quits JAN.1 ST. On 3 Frms I have a good dozzen ground sites set up. Just waiting for the right time and wind.
So far this summer I've seen (glassed) 56 bucks 8 shooters. 3/1 TO 6 1/2
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As long as I can get up and out of work I'll be hunting, Kenneth.
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Good I am glad we still have some hunters out there. I will start the last weekend in Aug, for elk. Sure is hot out here in the desert of S.W. Colorado but the elk are around and some big boys. The oil field is dead so will have time to hunt. There is a lot of empty desert out there but is really exciting when you find them. Good luck to everyone, I am anxious to see the pics and hear the stories. Kenneth
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Yep, it is always the plan. ;) :)
Pappy
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Good luck Pappy, I know you will do good you always do. Cheers. Kenneth
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Not so good last year Kenneth but hoping for better times this season ;) Good luck to you also, beautiful country you live in. :)
Pappy
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Sure am. A small group of us are heading to Grayling, Michigan for a week of bow hunting in October. Even have a wall tent amongst us. Should be a fantastic time with fantastic friends.
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Ill be in a tree at daylight October 1st with a stick and a string in my hand
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Great guys, wishing everyone an adventure and great season, Man oh man Pearlie Grayling Michigan sounds nostalgic, best take some Bear razor heads along. Kenneth
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Naturally Kenneth! Your welcome to fly up and live with us for a week.
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Ill be in a tree at daylight October 1st with a stick and a string in my hand
me too!
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Sept 14th! Less than a month away, man I gotta get busy, i got a lot to do by then.
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I usually play the crunch time game myself A-a-ron. However, the last few years Ive jumped on my hunting arrows early so I don't have to rush. Finding a bow isn't a problem :) , getting good hunting arra's can be!
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I'm going to start deer hunting September 1st, I'm thinking black powder in October for elk but will see how hot they are come 9/12 for the bow opener, maybe chase an elk with the bow. Good Luck to you all in what ever you go after. Ed
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I usually play the crunch time game myself A-a-ron. However, the last few years Ive jumped on my hunting arrows early so I don't have to rush. Finding a bow isn't a problem :) , getting good hunting arra's can be!
That's exactly my story this year Pearlie, gotta make some proper arras.
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Now I just need to talk myself into shooting at a deer. The older I get, the more I watch them. Im not covered up in deer and can go weeks between opportunities within 15-18 yards. I tell myself, "next buck that comes by is getting one sent his way". Then that time comes and he just breezes by me. I must be getting soft, and/or lost my desire to take more deer.
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Woohoo! Only 18 more days! I'm heading to the breaks for the opener to hunt elk, then coming back home for a couple weeks to hunt muleys and antelope, the last week of September I'll head back to the breaks for 10-12 days, then home again and then can rifle hunt antelope for a couple more weeks, then I'll pull out the old ruger m77 and head for the rough country after the big muleys.
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Great, I am shooting well, this mornings scouting was really encouraging, I procured permission to hunt the very promising private property I scouted this morning with miles and miles of BLM land and canyons behind it., been doing bike rides and hiking. Was finding lots of elk sign then smelled something dead, looked around and there was a dead bull elk, I want to belive it was lightning struck, but maybe poached. Three miles from the house. I want to pack in five gallons of water for camping and drinking (hunting the desert is different) every thing else can be ultra lite backpacking. Kenneth
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Sounding promising, Kenneth. Maybe Elkie will get her christening this season. 8)
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I think so Pat.
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Naturally Kenneth! Your welcome to fly up and live with us for a week.
Man that would be great, but am too broke to make it this year. Enjoy and live it like it could be the last hunt . kenneth
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I drew a bull elk tag, a any deer tag, and an antelope tag for here on the ranch. Also headed to Alberta to hunt moose and fish in the middle of Sept. Maybe after this year I should hang up my bow and just take pictures. Planning to hunt with the bows from past Classics. Joe
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I have the following tags in my pocket, in no particular order:
Bighorn sheep ewe (North Breaks)
General Elk
General Deer
Whitetail Doe (Regional)
Antelope (Archery Only)
Black Bear
Cow elk (South Breaks)
Turkey
Virginia is for lovers, Montana is for hunters! Hopefully I'll fill as many of these with my bow as I can. Just finished my osage bow (billets courtesy Osage Outlaw) and am fletching my hunting arrows tonight. Antelope season has already started - I'm slow! Elk and deer open September 5th.
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Oh, I plan on it! Been shooting today as a matter of fact. I have made deer cocaine and my son-in-law has some very nice bucks on his camera. Even a black bear in Central Arkansas. But I do have a question. Does any one use aluminum arrows? I've been fletching my own wood arrows but tried a friends aluminum and they fly much faster. I hate to add new to primitive and was wondering if anyone else does.
Thanks
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Tiredtim, those arrows aren't flying faster because of the material, per se - a lighter arrow will fly faster out of the same bow, so I'd be curious to see the weight difference between the two. Speed alone isn't the single most important factor of a hunting arrow; momentum and force are a factor of both weight and speed. For an exaggerated example, a ping pong ball hitting a window at 100mph won't do the damage a golf ball going 50mph will. Things to keep in mind.
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Andrea is right. Compare the physical weight of both arrows.
Generally for a hunting arrow you will want 10 grains per pound of draw weight. This is a general rule of thumb but nothing in this sport is cut in stone. I prefer hunting arrows on the heavy side(10 to 12 gpp) and learn the trajectory of those arrows through practice. A 150fps, 500 grain arrow is deadly to most North American game animal, if not to all. Putting the arrow through the boiler room is up to you. Without you, no weapon is effective.
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This helps so much. Thank you. So, if I'm shooting a bow that is about #55, myy arrows should be about 500 grains? How can I increase that weight if I need to? I would rather shoot wood instead of aluminum. Also, do I need to shorten my arrows? Will that increase the speed? Do you know of any articles I can read to get a better understanding or will you guys just keep replying? Ha! Thanks again.
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Around 450gr to 500 grs is about minimal arrow weight for a hunting IMO.
If your arrows are flying well and you cut some length off you will increase the spine by 5# per inch. You can add more point weight to add weight to your arrows but this will decrease spine by 5# for each 25 grs of point weight.
Keep asking here and you will get answers. There are a few books out there that talk about arrow making. TBBI and TBBIII both have chapters on arrow making.