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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: GB on August 30, 2015, 12:45:58 am

Title: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: GB on August 30, 2015, 12:45:58 am
Last fall I made this bow from a red elm board.  It didn't turn out great, took too much set midlimb.  I heated some reflex in it and was flipping the tips when I noticed small cracks along the wood.  So I stuck it back up in the rafters.  I couldn't bring myself to toss it because I'd backed it with cherry bark and I liked the way it looked.
A couple of weeks ago I rasped the elm down and glued a 1/4" Osage lam on the belly.  It's 65" long and draws 45 pounds.  Pretty average speed wise, but it's a nice shooter when I can manage to get my form together.
The handle is maple with a little curl to it.

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/okdoak/Wooden%20bows/cbarkbow4_zpsttoznzrp.png)

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/okdoak/Wooden%20bows/cbarkbow3_zps03dhwojz.png)



(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/okdoak/Wooden%20bows/cbarkbow2_zpsuwr04enh.png)

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/okdoak/Wooden%20bows/cbarkbow_zpsuqqdgqcu.png)

(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/okdoak/Wooden%20bows/cbarkbow6_zpsy3wwefl7.png)
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: sleek on August 30, 2015, 02:04:51 am
Nicely done sir. In my experience red elm tends to take lots of set. I didnt know it would handle an osage belly however.  Looks like you done it and done it good at that. Nice craftsmanship.  I like it.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Del the cat on August 30, 2015, 04:17:19 am
Nice save... :)
Del
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Badger on August 30, 2015, 06:13:53 am
  Very nice job on your part, I have never had luck with red elm. Beautiful tiller job!
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Dances with squirrels on August 30, 2015, 06:55:25 am
That's a nice bow... regardless of how it got there.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Stixnstones on August 30, 2015, 07:37:47 am
thats a beautiful piece of work right there!
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 30, 2015, 08:04:32 am
Nice bow and wood combo. Red elm will take some stretching and osage will take some compressing.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: rps3 on August 30, 2015, 08:23:57 am
I like the cherry backing.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Pat B on August 30, 2015, 08:50:04 am
Nice save!
  I've done this a few times with good results.   The cherry bark is helping with the tension.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Danzn Bar on August 30, 2015, 09:39:54 am
Very well done......
DBar
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: lebhuntfish on August 30, 2015, 10:48:00 am
Awesome bow, nice save! Patrick
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: sleek on August 30, 2015, 10:51:24 am
Nice save!
  I've done this a few times with good results.   The cherry bark is helping with the tension.

Does it really?! Seems weid to menbark has a viable tension strength.  It seems so thin and brittle.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: bowandarrow473 on August 30, 2015, 10:59:45 am
Looks great, nice save.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Carson (CMB) on August 30, 2015, 12:11:10 pm
Way to see it through. That turned out really nice.

Nice save!
  I've done this a few times with good results.   The cherry bark is helping with the tension.

Does it really?! Seems weid to menbark has a viable tension strength.  It seems so thin and brittle.

Sleek, cherry bark has incredible tension strength.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Pat B on August 30, 2015, 12:41:58 pm
Thanks Carson. I've found that out first hand. I think it even adds a bit of performance...but it is a specific cherry bark, not just cherry bark in general.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: GB on August 30, 2015, 02:04:10 pm
Thanks for the kind words everyone!  It means a lot to me coming from this group.  I don't know how many times I've looked at the bows you guys have posted and thought "Man, I wish I could craft a bow like that."

I was surprised by how strong and elastic the bark is, too.  I got it from Carson @ Echo Archery and the cane handle wrap as well.  I put aniline dye on the wrap to give it a bit of a weathered look.
Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: autologus on August 30, 2015, 04:22:45 pm
Carson has high quality products, his cherry bark is very good.  He is highly recommended as a supplier by me.

Grady
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Jim Davis on August 30, 2015, 05:01:56 pm
This is an approach that should be considered anytime a belly fails less than catastrophically.

We always hear "You can take wood off, but you can't  put it back." That's not true. You just have to take some more away and then put back more than you took, and retiller.

I've got a lot of Osage that is not good enough to make a bow, but works perfectly as a belly lamination. I've backed it with elm and with hickory. Almost any wood is three times or more stronger in tension than in compression. So, Osage can be a new belly on lots of woods.

Jim Davis
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: TimBo on August 30, 2015, 05:39:28 pm
Uh oh, this is giving me ideas...I was just thinking of ways to fix a nice elm bow I screwed up!
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 30, 2015, 09:07:53 pm
Nicely done
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Gaur on August 30, 2015, 09:11:43 pm
good job on that.  I like to play around and try to fix things and make things work as well.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Badly Bent on August 30, 2015, 09:31:10 pm
That rework paid off nicely, looks like a fine bow.
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: GB on August 30, 2015, 11:47:10 pm
Thanks again, guys, it's very much appreciated!
I like your thinking, Jim, especially because it's so hard for me to throw in the towel on a bow that I really like.  I know that I probably could have made another one in the time that I spent rasping, tapering, and getting this one glued up, but I'm glad I went this route and am happy with the way it turned out.
Good luck with yours TimBo!
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: dylanholderman on August 30, 2015, 11:52:17 pm
good save. i have one standing in the corner of shame that i will do up the same way, eventually ::)
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Pappy on August 31, 2015, 08:09:56 am
Good save, looks like a fine bow now. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Osage lam saves the bow
Post by: Aaron H on August 31, 2015, 08:11:06 am
Well you just took the long way around to a beautiful bow.  Well done