Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bradsmith2010 on October 14, 2015, 06:25:08 pm
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well I have been looking at this stave for months,, self bow??? sinew bow??? it is so nice I just hate to cut any length off it,,
anyway today I "committed" and cut off a bit from both ends to make an osage sinew back flat bow 55 inch ,, my favorite for now, but I am fickle , depending on what new inspiration you guys come up with,,, this site and you guys have been way inspirational and raised the bar and adjusted my paradigm,, its great,, I am having a great time working on some bows and I learn something every time I visit the site,, the bows are amazing here,, world class for sure,, the positive vibe and helpful spirit is truly amazing and I just wanted to voice my appreciation,,best wishes to you all in your bow making future,,( I am going to be dangerous now cause i just learned to post a photo :) :) :) spelling and grammar I will work on next :)
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Good looking piece of wood, looks good enough to to go any direction you want , by the way good to have you here also , been seeing your work for many years. Pappy
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That certainly is a fine looking osage stave. Glad you figured out the picture posting puzzle, took me several attempts and a lot of coaching from my wife and daughter to be able to do it on my own. ;) Looking forward to seeing the pics. of the finished bow that you get out of that stave.
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That is a nice stave Brad, you have the skills to do anything you want with it. I would probably go with some small recurves and possibly a very slight flex through the handle
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I think i would put some big hooks, miwok style but thats just me i like big hooks😄
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ok thanks guys, I am already confused,, I guess I have to commit to a design at some point,, or I will just end up looking at it again :)
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I misunderstood the post Brad, I thought you were looking for suggestions. By all means stick with what you had planned, that always works out the best!
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Thats a do anything ya want stave....nice piece of wood. Have fun!!!
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I like all the suggestions,, thats what so great about here,, creative input is infinite,,
Badger,, I like your idea ,, putting some small recurves would be nice,, we have talked about this,, I am at 7000 ft,,, seems I have a more difficult time bending the wood without cracking than I did at sea level,,, if I decide to do so ,, I will boil longer and assist with dry heat as I bend ,,,, maybe with two trys or bends cause I am just overly cautious about the cracking now,, thanks guys for the positive input,, :)
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I'm sure it will be an excellent bow, Brad.
Jawge
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here is the bow a few weeks later,, with about 900 grains of elk back sinew ,,it has been on there about a week ,,,and is drying nicely in the high desert winter... dont worry about the recurves. my plan is to shoot it as is,, if I am not happy with the performance, I plan to splice on recurves,, so I can measure the before and after,, :)
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Yep I've seen that here before.The big wait.A good 2 ounces on 4'.That'll do it.You should like it a bunch.I'm wondering though and maybe I'm interperating this wrong but you want to splice in recurves?Sounds good and I suppose a V splice,but why not do that before so you could put sinew over top the splice.I'm sure you'll wrap it there too.Sorry I'm just trying to peek ahead in your plans.With recurves added to your reflex you'll have a bunch to tiller out.Like 10" at least depending on your recurves.That'll shoot like a rocket.I'll be watching because I've had notions of doing something like what I think this might be.Would like to know your thoughts on what type of wood used for your recurves.I'm gonna say ash,elm,or spruce all edge grain.Maybe even mulberry.
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Keep the pic's and info coming Brad....I'm watching this one close, can't wait to see the splices..... :)
DBar
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Nice reverse tiller!
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More than likely your going to like it just as is.It'll look a lot like bubby's horn bow.Did you see that?Your floor tiller was good...nice reverse bend.
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well my plan was,, try it and see how she shoots,, putting recurves has been difficult for me at 7000 feet,, I dont know if I just had a bad streak ,, but I cracked some tips etc etc,, so I thought instead of risking cracking something( on this beautiful stave),, I would just learn how to splice the recurves on if I need too,, I dont know what wood I would use,, just make that decision when I get there, probably going to ask for advice on that one,, I have had pretty good luck with the straight limb ,, when the whole bow is reflexed,, it will be a hunting bow,, I dont flight shoot or anything,, just want something that shoots hard for the draw weight,, also I thought it would be very interesting to see how it shoots straight tips,( next time I will try your suggestion and splice first so I can sinew over), and then see what the difference would be with the recurves,, I would shoot both ways through the chrono,,, anyway thats my plan ,, we will see how it shoots like it is,, and then I will make a decision about the recurves,, elm does sound good to me,, I will check and see if I can find any here,, I will check out bubby's horn bow,,
DBar,, I am hoping it shoots so good I might not have to do it,, but am ready to learn when the time comes,, I have seen some nice recruves spliced on this site,, plan to ask for lots of advice on that one,,
DWS,, the reverse tiller did turn out pretty good, I hope that helps when I start the real tiller :)
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Bradsmith,
I can't wait to see the finished product! The waiting game with sinew is tough but well worth it as far as retained reflex and cast. I'd bet this will be a rocket launcher.
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I had some time to work on the bow
got it braced low, and adjusted the tiller a bit,, it is now about 53#@22 inches,, of course I shot it,, so far so good,,
my target draw is 25 or 26 just depending on how it is shooting and the tiller looks
it is holding 3 inches of reflex after resting,,
my target weight is mid 50's,, so I am ok for that
and my tips are wide enough I still have the option of splicing recurves,,
the string lines up so I can shoot either limb up,,will see how the longer draw goes,, :)
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Look'in good..... Brad
DBar
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Brad thats a awsome stave/bow,you have definatly given the inspiration you got away to me on short bow designs. Keep it up!!
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Looking very good Brad
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Nice, my friend. Very nice. Jawge
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i have been shooting the bow quite a bit today,, it is about 56#@23 inches of draw
it is shooting a 500 grain arrow in the mid 160's and one shot was 170fps
I had a mis read that was over 200 fps,, that was exciting, forgot to get a photo of that :)
I am hoping when I get it out to 25 inches it will shoot nicely,,and the tiller will look nice,
I really didnt look at the tiller today,, just watching the unbraced profile for now, and keeping the taper even,, it has lots of rings so easy to see them feather out,,,got lots of snow so my pulley is wet and snowy,, will get full draw pics when I get to 25 inches,, :)
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Looking good. Braced profile is dead on!