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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Ghost Knapper on November 02, 2015, 05:42:21 pm

Title: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Ghost Knapper on November 02, 2015, 05:42:21 pm
Finally got around to making something. my first attempt at a square bit? adze. Flaked it out of georgetown and then had my dad grind it. Going to find a handle and see how well it will do.

(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/adze_zpsb54eplvi.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/adze_zpsb54eplvi.jpg.html)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/adze2_zpsiiktzvbf.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/adze2_zpsiiktzvbf.jpg.html)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/adze3_zpskcteyum7.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/adze3_zpskcteyum7.jpg.html)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/adze4_zpsrhcyb4bb.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/adze4_zpsrhcyb4bb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Trapper Rob on November 02, 2015, 07:04:33 pm
Joel you bring it out one day & we'll try it out.
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: riverrat on November 02, 2015, 07:37:12 pm
sweet! i am building something simular right now.i like that axe blade.Tony
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Ghost Knapper on November 02, 2015, 08:13:30 pm
Trapper Rob- Hopefully I can get a handle this week made. Dad made one out of some rock out of the susquehanna and it chops like a champ.

Riverrat- would love to see some pics. This is the first attempt I have made at something like this. It was challenging trying to knap 5 separate sides/faces rather than the normal 2 when making a point or blade.
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: nclonghunter on November 02, 2015, 08:34:00 pm
Looks great, bet that thing will chop a bow out of a tree.. ;D
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: iowabow on November 02, 2015, 09:20:15 pm
Was it hard to grind?
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Ghost Knapper on November 02, 2015, 09:30:28 pm
I personally didnt grind it, but apparently it was easier than pedernales chert but harder than siltstone. But a diamond grinding wheel will chew through almost anything.  >:D
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Ghost Knapper on November 02, 2015, 09:33:15 pm
I did find though a really kool vid on knapping and grinding stone axe heads though with abo tools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oma6hIBrrQ
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Zuma on November 03, 2015, 11:27:22 am
Joel,
Is that more a European style tool?
Are there any Native American ones? (flint)
thanks Zuma
Oh god, thanks for clarifing that you didn't
make your dad grind that by hand. :o
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: bowmo on November 03, 2015, 12:48:46 pm
Very cool. Looks nice and heavy, should work great. You should try grinding one by hand, it's not as bad as you might think. Nice job on the square sides, I haven't been brave enough to try that yet.

Zuma, squared axes are indeed more associated with European flintknapping. Native Americans generally made their flaked and ground celt and adz heads from pieces that were bifaced in the standard way.

Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: 1442 on November 03, 2015, 12:54:12 pm
Nice! I want to make one too.
I have seen a prehistoric five sided axe/adz like that except it was ground smooth on all five sides out of a dark tan colored stone that looks like some of the local gravel. It was found in Sabine Parish Louisiana.
Some day when I'm up there I will get some pics of it.
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: caveman2533 on November 03, 2015, 02:22:22 pm
Zuma, yes there are flint celts and adzes that are ground from here, mostly Midwest.
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 03, 2015, 06:05:41 pm
Joel, nice job. I saw the adze that your Dad made up at the Parker Dam, that was quite impressive for cutting wood. Bob
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Ghost Knapper on November 03, 2015, 06:07:07 pm
Yeah it is I chopped through a log up at Little Pine State Park. I should have taken photos during the process of making this one, early stages really showed more definition to the 5 faces
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Josh B on November 04, 2015, 07:52:39 am
Cool!  The business end looks like it would do some serious wood removal.  Josh
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: Zuma on November 04, 2015, 11:40:54 am
It was found in Sabine Parish Louisiana.
Some day when I'm up there I will get some pics of it.

I would sure like to see it. Any chance it's in a museum
or other puplic display? Maybe on line??

Here are some Danish five sided.
Title: Re: Grind over flake adze
Post by: 1442 on November 04, 2015, 08:25:03 pm
It's in a friends collection. He has a few axes , adzes and hammers of different sizes and shapes, some with grooves.
The only one I ever found was hit with a disc and broke the bit. It was a plain tapered oval shape with a lot of peck marks still visible.