Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Zuma on November 03, 2015, 01:56:27 am
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You folks know more about this stuff than I do.
It looked like a good value and had multi colors.
Any comments welcomed.
Zuma
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I think that is a set of multi color cordage made from hemp. >:D
Patrick
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I thought it said Shemp - Moe & Larrys Buddy O:) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Bob.
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Don, how does it smoke :o :o ;D Bob
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Ok I love commodians :) but your forcing me to remove
the first sentance in my original post >:D
Zuma
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Hemp (from Old English hænep) is a commonly used term for high-growing varieties of the Cannabis plant and its products, which include fiber, oil, and seed. Hemp is refined into products such as hemp seed foods, hemp oil, wax, resin, rope, cloth, pulp, paper, and fuel.
Other variants of the herb Cannabis are widely used as a drug, commonly known as marijuana. These variants are typically low-growing and have higher content of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol (CBD), and other cannabinoids. The legality of Cannabis varies widely from country to country, and from state to state in the United States. In many countries regulatory limits for concentrations of psychoactive drug compounds, particularly THC, in hemp require the use of strains of the plant which are bred for low content.[1]
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Oh! OK I guess I asked for it. :o
I said any comments. :-\
I thought yall would read the title of the forum
and sorta keep things a little bit in that direction. :-*
Oh well. Horses and water. >:D
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Zuma, I don't know much about hemp but it is a natural material. So I would not be afraid to us it. Now I'm not sure about a bow string. You would have to do several breaking test. I think It is cool and I would use it in any project that called for some type of cordage. Patrick
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Zuma, I don't know much about hemp but it is a natural material. So I would not be afraid to us it. Now I'm not sure about a bow string. You would have to do several breaking test. I think It is cool and I would use it in any project that called for some type of cordage. Patrick
Cool, You and I are on the same page.
I just wonder about the folks that (roll their own) ::)
feel about this. Kinda like it's made by machine so it's
not cool for abo.
Thanks Zuma
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commodians
Zuma
Good one ;D ;D ;D
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Zuma, I use hemp cord for handle wraps. It is very strong but not uniform in diameter. I buy it from Wally World in a 1# ball and it comes in a light tan and a light brown color. I first started using hemp cordage on a bow I built that was spliced in the handle but also bends in the handle so the riser kept popping off. After beefing up the handle area a bit I wrapped it with hemp cord and saturated with Massey finish. The handle never popped off again and I now use it for most of my handle wraps.
Hemp has been grown in the US since WWI. It was used for making rope. Now days it is used for all sorts of things from food to cloths like said above. This hemp was bred for its fibers, the other kind was bread for it's intoxicating resins.
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Awww, Mannnnnn...... now I'm like real hungry!......
Wayne
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Awww, Mannnnnn...... now I'm like real hungry!......
Wayne
Awwww, Mannnnn--- could you move this post up the page with Outbacks?? :) ;) :D
Zuma O:) lol
Pat Thanks,
I was going to tell you where I know there is tons of it growing wild.
Left over from the big time manufacturing stuff like you posted about.
But I see a market blooming for it right here before my eyes.
What you guys got for trade?? Oh, crap now my inbox is full up.
Zuma O:)
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Snort!! You're on your game today ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Zuma, I use hemp cord for handle wraps. It is very strong but not uniform in diameter. I buy it from Wally World in a 1# ball and it comes in a light tan and a light brown color. I first started using hemp cordage on a bow I built that was spliced in the handle but also bends in the handle so the riser kept popping off. After beefing up the handle area a bit I wrapped it with hemp cord and saturated with Massey finish. The handle never popped off again and I now use it for most of my handle wraps.
Hemp has been grown in the US since WWI. It was used for making rope. Now days it is used for all sorts of things from food to cloths like said above. This hemp was bred for its fibers, the other kind was bread for it's intoxicating resins.
Hemp was banned from the US until this year. Colorado allows the growing of it. Some larger supplement companies that are based out of the US had to buy foreign grow hemp for protein powders until this year.
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Marijuana with a THC content of over 1%(or equally small amount, memory ::)) is illegal to cultivate. Industrial hemp has an almost negligible THC content and can be grown. However it cannot be harvested until it is dead and dry. At that point the oils are not worth extracting or evaporated completely, but rope from the fibers can still be made. So over half the commercial value of the plant is wasted. At least that's the way it was before the changes in pot laws began.
It was a hot button issue in South Dakota about 12 yrs ago. The Lakota reservation fought a heck of a legal battle over the restrictions surrounding growing hemp. Industrial hemp was about the only profitable crop that could be grown in the awful barren ground we were generous enough to stick them on after we kicked them off all the good bits. The ridiculousness went as far as they had to have each plant individually tested and tagged with that plants THC content on it. Funny part is, industrial hemp is an awful thing to have around if you're growing the medicinal strains. It will fertilize them from dozens of miles away. In addition to making the plant go to seed those seeds will be a industrial cross and be of no use to a medicinal grower.
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Hemp is a variety of cannabis — and thus a cousin of marijuana — that contains 0.3% or less of the psychoactive component THC. (Marijuana plants typically contain 5% to 20% THC.) You can't get high from hemp, but starting in 1937, U.S. drug laws made cultivating it off-limits.Jun 25, 2014
http://www.ncsl.org/research/agriculture-and-rural-development/state-industrial-hemp-statutes.aspx (http://www.ncsl.org/research/agriculture-and-rural-development/state-industrial-hemp-statutes.aspx)
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In an attempt to keep the US paper production lumber based if I remember correctly. At least the timber companies lobbied/paid for the laws from what I've read.
Improvement of function, effect, efficiency, or quality in general matters little when profit and loss are involved.
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It also makes a superb cloth. We could not manufacture it here, but could import it. I wonder how much kick back went some where in the land of Deceitful Cohorts? Anyway, whatever variety it is very useful. I will not go into areas, that might involve Big Pharma, and other strictly for profit, mega business, as to why Hemp, or Pot is illegal, but it rather obvious, especially after the big propaganda movie, in the late forties. I had some natural hemp, some with wax, some without, from India, and it was a bit pathetic, as far as strength, and uniformity, goes.
Wayne
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i like hemp for my bow strings. and sewing as well. i even backed a bow with strands of it once. had to retiller as it was way to hard to pull. . Tony
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I use that store variety hemp cord all the time for a rustic look. It's a bit thick for wrappings and a bit weak for bow strings but it works. It's a cheap material that's good for the kids when they want to make stuff.
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walmart has 2 ply hemp cordage that is very small diam. but its strong! i do 5 strands of two ply twist one way then double it over, twist the other way. works on a 40-45 pound bow without a problem.id rather make my own from scratch but i think the authorities wouldnt believe why id be growing it.lol Tony
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Very cool you-all. :) thanks
Seems one word thread titles work
or is it juat the subject matter?
Perhaps I could start a thread in Campfire
'Girls" and see how many responses come in. >:D
Zuma
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Well, there are some people here that may appreciate a thread on Campfire Girls but I think most of us are a bit old. >:D >:D
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Well, there are some people here that may appreciate a thread on Campfire Girls but I think most of us are a bit old. >:D >:D
Are you ever too old for girls? Or hemp?
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I agree :)
Something like "Golden Girls and medicinal
herbs:
But I jest. We are off topic.
Ado and partake resopnsibly.
Zuma
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gnarly man, hang 10
smoke on
bong rip
pass the grass
too faded for bowyery
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Ya got anything to eat?
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Ya got anything to eat?
I never tried it But--- >:D ;) :laugh:
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Kinda chewy lookin' but it is natural, gimme a chunk :D :D :D
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I have bougght this stuff several times at hobby shops and walmart. It is generally machine processed and thus the fibers are short and of poor quality. I mad a bunch of bowstrings from it, and none worked except for little kids' bows. If you go to the trouble to counter twist it again in two or three strands and wax it, it is actually pretty darn good for lacing leather and stuff. nothing like actual shoemakers thread, but good.
I have used it for limb wrapping for reinforcement, and similar, larger diameter for wrapping handles. it's easy to color with wood stain or dyes and looks rugged and primitive.
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Good quality hemp with glue can make a really strong bowstring. I think there's a thread somewhere of someone who made a fairly thin warbow string from hemp fibers, with hide glue?
I would only use the "craft store" machine processed, and bleached? hemp for 20# PVC bows. I also use it for wrapping handles and other random stuff
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Thanks for the info gents. 8)
That's what I was looking for. :)
Zuma
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Just picked up some at Walmart. Think it's too thin for a wrap like Pat was talking about. I need to go buy the other stuff now.
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Walmart hemp cord saturated with 2ton epoxy Massey finish...
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I'd post more but Photo Bucket is acting up again. ::)
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Oh, maybe not. This stuff just seems super thin. Do you do a couple wraps around it?
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Single wrap. I use a bulbous handle and fill out the back of the handle with thick shoe leather then add the wrap.
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Like Pat B has it.....the commercial stuff from Wal-Mart is good for decorative uses, but not too much else.
We used to make hemp jewelry (bracelets, necklaces, etc) with different glass beads and what-not woven into it when I was in high-school in the late 90's.
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Every plumber probably has it handy and the fibers should be easily to get .....
it is a multipurpose plant .... the seeds are a good bird's food but i used to eat them
too .... they are not so hard like nuts or peanuts and can be eaten as they are ...
do not need to be roasted like peanuts and the oil is expensive but tasty .....
the fibers are quite good ... maybe a little less good than flax or linen , but make
good bowstrings .... slings, ropes and so on ... and of course insulation for waterpipes ...
Industrial or bird's hemp , how some people call it .... is almost every time hermaphroditic
and forget about the THC .... cooking one plant in milk until the milk is green cures
constipation and you should not use it when you do not want diarrhea ...
as i can see hemp fibers and cords are avaiable in all parts of the US, Europe and
maybe the rest of the world too ....
some fools are giving almost a fortune for a small pack (ten seeds) of hemp seeds ...
it is merely bird's food sold for maybe one euro a kg or maybe for 50 cent for two
pounds in the US
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I heard years ago the hemp seed were removed from bird seed when hemp was outlawed. Also, they said that canneries stopped singing when they did this.
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They stopped singing acid rock >:D
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Lol you guys are a hoot. O:)
This may be a tad off topic so to remove it is ok. :)
I sent an email to some friends. They replied and I answered---
"I have a big pile of dogbane here and know where to find it.
Friday it is. Yes I can put a tarp on the upper deck.
I told everyone that.
Last dance for Mary Jane one more chance to ease the pain.
Someone at the door. later Zuma
Now since I had to run I didn't really finish the thought--- ???
"I see winter closing in"
Well the replies I got from that mail were quite similar to the ones here.
LOL Zuma
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So, was there real a time hemp fibres were illegal in the states or anywhere else?
I doubt this can be true , because it would make old clothes , old paper (once heard the constitution was written on paper made out of hemp fiber) , old ropes and a lot of other things illegal ...
also hemp fibre until now is not easy substituted by anything else .....
Seems however there was a time the US had to import hemp fibres , because laws prohibited growing
of the plant ...
An urban legend says the growing plastic industry was afraid of hemp .... however there is no way
plastic is anywhere a competition to hemp fibre ...
when used and manufactered the right way the hemp fibre makes the better bowstring
water proof is not a criteria at all ... as no English longbow archer would have substituted his
linen bowstring with something water proof like asbest(rock wool)
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During WWII it was grown(by the Gov) all over the US to make rope for the war. I don't think hemp of any kind was made illegal until 1929.