Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: bushboy on December 08, 2015, 07:16:11 pm
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I offered up a bow in support of my children annual Christmas silent auction but the principle decline as it was a weapon.it's a hunting weight bow so it was meant for the adults to buy tickets for.thhoughts?
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I have done the same for several years....they were accepted and brought fair money, maybe it's different here in Northern Michigan? Personally I'm getting real tired of all this PC Crap, makes me glad to be old.....
rich
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The local art gallery took all my art except a
full life buck deer bust carved from wood??
I am with you half eye good to be near the door.
LOl Zuma
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you might want to talk with the principle more often.
he might have a perfectly rational reason for turning down your contribution, or then again, he might not be the person you want to have in charge of your children's education.
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This is why we need to bring back military conscription -- this time for every man, woman and child.
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I think the principle is doing the safe and responsible thing, I may not agree though. We all love and respect the craft and sometimes it's easy to forget that not everyone else does and may end up in irresponsible hands who may injure themselves as much as others. It sounds like he is being safer than sorry which I can't really knock, and he may also be taking into account other parents of a more sensitive disposition who may not be comfortable or feel it's appropriate with what is in the wrong hands a dangerous weapon being auctioned for the children's auction. As a principle he's just looking out for the potential grey areas. I doubt he meant to be disrespectful though. Just another point of view for a balanced debate.
Ruddy Darter.
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Good point Ruddy, but my thoughts are we are Wussafying America. Can't protect everyone from everything as big brother likes to think he can and also the principal probably just wants to keep his job. ;) :) You know how it is now days just one person gets something started and he is out of there. :(
Pappy
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AMEN Pappy ! Bob
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I offered up a bow in support of my children annual Christmas silent auction but the principle decline as it was a weapon.it's a hunting weight bow so it was meant for the adults to buy tickets for.thhoughts?
there are too many cry baby sensitive parents so the principal has to up hold the "no weapons" policy so other parents don't complain...my son whose in 3rd grade made a wooden arrow at Marshall from a bent stick, and some left over materials from guys building arrows and a stone he found. He was beyond proud of it, and took it to show and tell, and to show his art teacher because they were studying cave paintings - within 2 hours we got a phone call to come pick up the arrow as it was described as a "weapon" from a parent volunteer who saw my son carrying it in the hallway between classes.
My son was crushed...neither of the teachers had a issue with it nor considered it a weapon neither did the principal but she had to uphold the policy so some parent wasn't so butt hurt.
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It kind of surprises me they even call it a Christmas auction. :( it was on the news last night in one school system the principle sent out a memo to all teacher to be sure their Holiday party's weren't just disguised Christmas parties. ??? some people just need to get a life. ::)
Pappy
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Pappy, you are absolutely correct sir. After all my years in law enforcement I have a perspective that a lot of people just cant seem to grasp.
Basically, laws and locks are for honest people. Crooks, malcontents, bangers and so called terrorists dont care about laws (who cares what kind of gun/ weapon you use to rob a bank or kill people). That means that the law abiding people (not armed) are easy pickings for them. Basically I believe I would preffer to "teach" a child to defend himself (including weapons) than to teach them how to cower and hide.
I know I'm an old man and dont know crap, but here is my personal thoughts.....better to go down in the gunfight, knife fight, or what ever than to bow down and depend on the mercy of a terrorist, because they dont have any. There is a very old cop saying that goes.....the color of mercy is red. I went through the 66-67 big city riots and that whole black panther stage, placating malcontents DOES NOT WORK.
rich
Anyway, sorry for the rant. feel free to crap the old guy's ramblings.
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Yep rich, well stated. ;)
Pappy
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bushboy, Just my 2 cents. Why not build the bow, do a raffle somewhere (facebook local shooting club) and donate the money to the school. Then you both win. And someone who appreciates your work ends up with your bow.
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Joe my two cents worth is if i can't come in the front door, i ain't sneeking in the back😉
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Principals sit at an epicenter of BS trying to balance out everyone's individual brand of nuts. I've been graced to work under some truly fine ones and some down right criminal ones. You won't see me pursuing that job. Tough enough teaching...
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Thank's for the replies!i'm just kinda saying things have changed. When I was a kid I got a lick if I was doing poorly or causing trouble in school!seems today it's all the teacher fault.not sure where this is all heading?
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When I was a kid I was a shoe shine boy. Prior to that I was a paperboy. When I was a teenager I was still a shoe shine boy. When the cops picked us up for our mischievous doings they either confiscated our beer or called my father, sometimes both. I would generally prefer that they just confiscate the refreshments. My old man was a pretty understanding parent for the most part but you never wanted to get his dander up. He did explicitly explain that we could get away with stepping across the white line with some understanding on his part but lo and behold if mother found out about it we were due for an ass whoopin.
Good cops used to be the norm. Their job wasn't to inflict punishment or straddle you with a record. They were our protectors and guides, our off beat parents per say. Too bad times have changed.
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The only difference between any tool and a weapon is how you hold it. If one were so inclined, they could injury someone with any of the items in the auction. You'll never get rid of violent tenancies by banning certain tools. In fact banning things, often makes those things more desirable to troublemakers. For example, look at how the "Just say no" generation turned out.
When I was in high school(1992-1996) we shot archery in gym class. We also had a rifle club that shot .22's in the basement. One time a teacher overheard my buddy and I discussing our hunting plans for after school.
He asked "Do you have your guns in your car?".
I replied "Yes."
He exclaimed "Bring them in and put them in my office, someone's liable steal them out of your car."
Then Columbine happened. Now the same school has metal detectors and expels students for pocket knives and nail clippers.
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Yep times have changed, My machine shop teacher use to have us bring in our 22's in around Christmas and let us leave class and go shoot mistletoe for decoration around the shop, my senior year we built a black powder canon and fires it off on the foot ball field, and of course we had a smoking area. ;) :) :) Yep they have really changed not sure for the better. :-\
Pappy
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I was on the rifle team in high school and almost every truck in the parking lot had a shotgun on the gun rack in the back window.
A friend went to Ga. Southern College. They kept their shot guns in their rooms or car trunk. The dorm monitor asked them to keep their weapons in her room and when they needed them she would give them back. One morning about 4am they went to her room to get their guns for a duck hunt. After that she said to keep them in their cars or closet in the rooms.
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I began a reply and then realized what ya'll were likely struggling with also. It's a bit difficult to keep such a discussion from being politically/lifestyle neutral.
Obviously the killings at our schools and public places has played important role in changing "rules of the road". But I believe there's also another change (and probably many others).
In 2011 I did a 4-month 4200 mile x-country tour of US on me bicycle. My route was largely on state/county highways and mostly avoided urban areas. So I visited many many small towns. Small town America is disappearing. The prosperous independent rural/small towns common when I was growing up are now endangered species. My cycling tour showed that majority of small towns are dead or dying or in process of being swallowed by suburbia. Small towns shared many attributes that are different than urban/suburban areas. I'm soooooo happy me and my kids had opportunity to grow up in small towns.
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A comment more so than a suggestion: I bet if you took that same bow and decorated it up some which-a-way and offerd it as Native American inspired art, it would not only be accepted in the sale, but would bring twice the price. If you tagged it with a tribal name, like "Cherokee Inspired", it would bring triple. "Weapons" are not PC, Native American appreciation and art is PC. Sometimes you cut across the grain, sometimes it is better to follow the twists and go around the knots. It is very hard to know the difference.
Keith
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Here's a look,kinda has a NA look I think.
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Sometimes you cut across the grain, sometimes it is better to follow the twists and go around the knots. It is very hard to know the difference.
will try to remember that one!