Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Spotted Dog on January 14, 2016, 03:07:33 pm
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:Started cutting out my shirt today. A little un nerving. As I go along I will post pics. I have beaded strips coming to go on it.
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Especially so even if you brain tanned them yourself or paid for them.It gets easier to put scissors to leather the more stuff you make out of it.Looking forward to the pics.
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Sometimes little goofs actually enhance the finished product rather than ruin them. The hardest cuts are the first couple that being cutting the hides apart for the front/back & sleeves. The rest are much easier. I've actually made a ragged cut maybe somewhere around one of the sides or right above one of the breast areas just to have a seam to sew. Sew it together and pull it tight to pucker it and after you're done sewing you can pull it apart and flatten the puckers. It can add something to the look.
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I have made 3 or 4 a long time ago. rusty and old now. My problem is I am 46 in the chest and 36 in the waist.
Trying to figure width . I will have to add false legs on the sleeves. I have used buff and deer.
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You bet mistakes sometimes do add character to the project but like Spotted dog said it's no good too small.I once made a coat using 7 different deer I think.Even with using the scraps for fringe etc.
Beadwork should have an out of sort or off colored bead here and there just to show that the person making it is not perfect.
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The man doing the strips has some small hitches in them. I think it will be great. Going for a complete outfit .
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Shirt so far . front and back tacked together at top. Sleeves cut and now to narrow a little maybe . It is 27" wide at shoulder and 46" long to the bottom.
Sleeves 23 " long. I can always cut shorter , but can't add to.
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Looking good.Nice.Reminds me of a picture of a Mandan war shirt I've seen being that long.
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That is what I am going for. I added some false legs and need to add one more.
Thanks,
Dan
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Spotted dog....You would'nt happen to have the series of The Books Of Buckskinning would you.There are 8 of them.Well researched books I think.With lots and lots of projects laid out there for people.
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Cool Dan, how many hides you gonna have in it?
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I have 2 1/2 in it.
Hey Aaron how ya doing ?
Dan
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Doing well Dan, hope to see you drop in sometime
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What day and time again ? Forgot.
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You know those frigid North Dakota and Montana winters were sure warmer with a full length shirt like that.
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Every Wednesday evening
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That's looking god so far. :)
Pappy
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I got my shirt sewn this morning. I will paint it in the morning. I have my beaded strips too.
After I paint and it dries I will add them (4) total.
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Shirt so far. Bead work layed on it. A friend Matt did the beadwork .
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Very, very nice!
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Very nice work.
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Way cool ! Bob
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Thanks guys. I am painting it today. Will post pics.
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painted and now let dry and put bead work on.
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When beadwork is added that's gonna be quite the attention-getter.
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Just layed on
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What was your paint and carrier? The shirt looks awesome. 8)
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Paint cookies from Bead Match. Pigment and hide glue.
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hanks. Your shirt is looking good! 8)
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Any special meaning behind the paint job?
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The red for the good red road. Black stripes coup counted . The circle and colors day and night. Yellow dots hail stones, male force. Heads for enemy kills and pipes for counsels.
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the thunder bird celestial being
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Awesome shirt
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Pretty cool. Lakota, Cheyenne?
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Lakota They would do the top have red. Green or yellow bottom. I chose to do yellow dots. I am
going to do more black on the sleeves. Yellow at the bottom.
When I get this one done going to do a Cheyenne.
I wish my great grandmothers people wore them I would do that. As far as I know the Sauk/Fox did not.
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strips in place and need to finish sewing them down. More paint too . Brought the yellow down and red on sleeves.
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Yowzaaaa.!!!!!!Your getting quite a gallery of beautiful brain tan clothing there.Looks nice.Very nice beadwork and pigments too.Found a quill worker yet?I know they don't come cheap unless it's family.I did about an inch and a half once.Using 2 needles and said I'll just bead.Don't bead that much any more either.
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Spotted dog, you`ve used pigment and hideglue. You should have brushed in the pigments only, because hideglue hardens the leather.
Regards
Uwe
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Wow! Excellent!
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Rebbecca Parker does some amazing quill work. James on this site is her husband, and she is a lot prettier and talented.
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That looks like a very interesting project you got there spotted dog thanks for sharing it with us.
Bjrogg
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It will stiffen the hide for sure but the nice thing about braintanned is its ability to be softened again once becoming wet which non braintanned assuredly doesn't. I've done two shirts with braintanned using the same paint cookies which is pigment mixed with hide glue that comes about the size of a quarter and about 1/8" thick. One shirt the hides were pretty thin and it's completely painted and that is just as soft as before I painted it. The other shirt also fully painted was made of thicker hides but I didn't find it to get much stiffer after the paint. Just had to work it after the paint dried and it's good to go.
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I'm impressed they really are nice I love the one with the weasels heck I love them all.
Bjrogg
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Update on my big shirt. I removed the beadwork. It was loomed and sewn down. Not right to do that when recreating.
I reworked the paint and over dyed the complete shirt in walnut dye, and when dry tumbled in cool dryer to soften.
Wow looks old now. Gotta do some more work. I will post pic in the morning.
Spotted Dog ofie bakoa
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Yes loom beading is nice in its' place but lazy stitch always is a bit firmer.Thanks for sharing this.I did my clothes work back in the 80's and 90's and did'nt take any pics along the way of construction.
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I completely changed it up. over dyed in walnut hull dye.
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While waiting on beadwork for the other I will finish this one. An Everyday shirt.
Spotted Dog