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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Lucasade on February 28, 2016, 03:51:02 pm

Title: Finishing material
Post by: Lucasade on February 28, 2016, 03:51:02 pm
If I want to make a mix of beeswax, resin and fine tallow, what resin do I need? Or can I just use wax and tallow?
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2016, 06:21:48 pm
I've made leather dressing with bees wax, bear grease and pine pitch.
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Lucasade on February 29, 2016, 01:07:19 pm
Would they have used pine pitch in Tudor England? I guess there were pine trees but assumed it would be something else they would use.
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Pat B on February 29, 2016, 02:45:42 pm
Pine, spruce, fir and probably others
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: WillS on February 29, 2016, 04:45:13 pm
Pork fat and beeswax!  Waterproof, traditional and easy to mix a batch and apply.
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Lucasade on March 01, 2016, 01:55:46 am
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: mikekeswick on March 01, 2016, 03:05:37 am
Varnishes have been made from pine resins since forever. I really like copal varnish. It's easy to make your own varnishes from pine resins.
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: WillS on March 01, 2016, 03:59:22 am
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?

I think you can use whatever you want.  A lot of people swear by predator fat - bear, fox etc.  I like pork fat because it's easy to get.  We don't have bears here ;)
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Pat B on March 01, 2016, 09:35:13 am
I do make a varnish by dissolving hard, brittle pine pitch in alcohol to seal primitive arrows and sinew wraps on arrows. I guess it actually isn't a true varnish because it doesn't have oil in it but it works well to seal arrows and sinew wraps. I don't think I would use it on bows though.
 I have finished a few bows with hand rubbed bear or pork fat and it worked well.
Animal fat, bees wax and tree pitch blend together well with a little heat but be careful because the pitch in very volatile so don't overheat it. Different mix ratios will yield different consistencies for different applications. 
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Lucasade on March 01, 2016, 01:15:41 pm
Sounds like lots of things to experiment with - thanks all.
Title: Re: Finishing material
Post by: Heffalump on March 07, 2016, 11:53:41 am
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?

I think you can use whatever you want.  A lot of people swear by predator fat - bear, fox etc.  I like pork fat because it's easy to get.  We don't have bears here ;)

That's exactly what Meester Poletti sends through with his bows Will  ;)....plus when they eventually go "bang", the wreckage smells lovely when you sling it on the camp-fire  :P

John T  8)