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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Academonicon on May 23, 2016, 07:37:36 pm

Title: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Academonicon on May 23, 2016, 07:37:36 pm
Finished the bow for my good buddy and all-around cool guy, Matt!  He works at a working forge that's part of a history museum, and a while back we agreed to a trade: I make him a bow, and he makes me a knife, machete, or hatchet (dealer's choice, still remains to be seen what it'll be).
The tiller wound up looking a little weird at brace-height, with the upper limb looking all stiff, but it actually looks pretty good at full draw, and it shoots really smoothly, so I'm not too worried about it.

The specs:
56" ntn
40# @ 28" (I think, I'm just estimating)
black locust w/maple backing
mahogany riser and tip overlays

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13243945_1291806627531371_3918886466226584159_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: ajooter on May 23, 2016, 07:40:31 pm
Thats gorgeous man and well tillered for the bow length!  Holds a great profile unbraced.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 23, 2016, 07:48:57 pm
Nice looking bow.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 23, 2016, 08:18:23 pm
Sweet look'n full draw and unbraced.....very well done.
How wide are the tips?  ...looks like they could be very thin in the static area.
DBar
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Academonicon on May 23, 2016, 08:22:02 pm
Thanks folks.  DBar, the tips taper from about 7/8" at the base to 3/8" at the tip.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 23, 2016, 08:24:57 pm
Very nice.....
DBar
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on May 23, 2016, 08:45:45 pm
Great job I'm sure your buddy will love it. Can't wait to see your knife when he's done
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: JonW on May 23, 2016, 10:23:34 pm
Very well executed. Nice bow.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: osage outlaw on May 23, 2016, 10:35:54 pm
Nice looking bow!
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Badly Bent on May 23, 2016, 10:39:18 pm
Nice bow, looks like a shooter.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: George Tsoukalas on May 24, 2016, 08:07:20 am
Wow! Gorgeous bpw! Jawge
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Pat B on May 24, 2016, 08:23:57 am
Very nice bow.  Maple seems to make a good backing for Locust.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: BowEd on May 24, 2016, 08:24:23 am
That's a gem bud.Nice job.Hav'nt seen that combo ever either.He should be thrilled with that bow.Hope you get the quaility back at ya.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: bubbles on May 24, 2016, 08:35:33 am
Great bend on that pup
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Aaron H on May 24, 2016, 08:50:35 am
That's a fine looking bow, well done
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Hans H on May 24, 2016, 09:39:27 am
nice bow, well done
Hans
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Academonicon on May 24, 2016, 11:59:10 am
Thanks, folks!  It's a sweet shooter for sure.

(One warning about the black locust: I boiled in the recurves, which has usually been a pretty safe way to do a steep curve, but the wood splintered like crazy during bending.  If I hadn't been really careful and clamped down the splinters, I probably would've lost the bow.  Not sure if this is a common problem with BL, but it was almost a project-ending issue.  It's the main reason why the BL is narrowed down on the tips and there are pieces of maple on the belly side of the curves.)
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Stixnstones on May 24, 2016, 02:30:34 pm
that's a beaut for sure
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Snake River Stickbow on May 25, 2016, 03:54:55 am
That's a great looking bow. I was wondering how the maple performed as a backing? I've never made a static tip recurve, sweet looking bows like yours are giving me the inspiration to try it.
Do you leave the limbs wide and thick before boiling and shaping them, then thin them down during tillering? Or do you have a the limb tips pretty close to finished dimensions before bending them?

Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Academonicon on May 25, 2016, 10:18:55 am
Thanks SRS!  You should definitely try the static tips, I love 'em. 

The maple as backing was recommended by a few people here when I was starting the project, and hasn't let me down.  Both the BL and the maple came from board, so getting that straight grain on the back was crucial, but it's worked out nicely.

As far as the tips go, I shape them down most of the way before boiling-n'-bending, just to make the bend easier and (hopefully) less prone to splintering, but there are definite down-sides to that: for one, it's better to leave the tips wide during bending so that if you end up with string-alignment issues, you can shave down the tips accordingly to correct the problem.  That was actually something I learned the hard way with this bow.  Plus, as I mentioned above, the BL splintered badly during bending anyway, even though I'd thinned it down, so I'm not sure that's actually the way to go.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: BowEd on May 25, 2016, 09:07:27 pm
Academonicon....I would think you put the BL to brace and aligned tips before putting on maple backing correct?Otherwise heat correction to tips for alignment would be a problem with the glue there.You did a fine job with it though.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Academonicon on May 25, 2016, 11:27:09 pm
Beadman: Yup, that would've been the way to go.  Unfortunately, this being my first wood-backed bow, I didn't realize it until the backing was on, so I did end up with alignment issues.  I fixed it by reshaping the handle a little bit, but next time I'll definitely be bracing the bow first.
Title: Re: Black Locust for my buddy Matt
Post by: Mounter on May 26, 2016, 01:54:41 am
Beautiful bow!!