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Title: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 04:09:16 am
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I finally got around to making my hotbox. Once I got started it came together pretty quick. Had to rewire it three times. Tried to install a dimmer with it to regulate the light output but not having prior electrical experience it proved to test my patience but calmness prevailed and we have ourselves a little dehydrator with 4-100watt bulbs for heat source inside a foil wrapped 1" insulfoam board box. Dimensions 2 x 1.5 x 6.5 ft. I also put a little fan in there on low to give us the benefit of the heat and the moving air to aspirate the moisture as it rises to the surface of the staves. I also realized that I may be able to do plant starts and dry herbs in it so that will be a bonus for sure.
The staves are all from "the matriarch" I harvested with Jeremey(woodbow) last Sept. ( see "Hunting the Osage tree"). I figure being 6mths old they probably still have 6mths to go before I should work them. Lets see if I can coax them along a little quicker without getting any check. I re sealed the ends and the back with shellac. I intend to let em cook for about 3wks at 100F with air movement. I weighed them all before I put them in. They range from 5.6lbs to 7.9lbs. It should be interesting to watch the weight drop to a stable moisture content. I intend to check them daily for the first few days and then maybe once every 3 after that. Then once we get them to where they are safe to work we shall embark on our first Osage endeavor. Next on the list will be building the caul per Ken's tutorial.The only exception there is I will do mine hinged as he suggested for easier transport and storage.

Whatcha all think?       Danny

Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: ricktrojanowski on February 28, 2008, 07:41:20 am
Looks nice.   I just modified my laminating oven to a hotbox.  Pretty much the same as you have fan and all.  Only difference is it has 4 60W bulbs on a dimmer.  I also drilled 3-1" holes at each end to help any excess moisture escape.   
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Pappy on February 28, 2008, 07:45:42 am
Nice box,can't hardly get along without mine.
    Pappy
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2008, 08:44:22 am
Looks like a box full of Gold, and yer wife lets ya have it in the living room :o
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: tom sawyer on February 28, 2008, 10:39:35 am
Nice box, you mmight want to put a few holes in one end to allow moisture to escape.  The boxes I've seen had bulbs on the bottom so the heat would rise, and holes on top for the moist air to escape.  But with your fan you'll be just fine.  What kind of fan is that?  Does it run constantly?

If you put herbs or plants in there you'll be raising the humidity considerably.
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: cowboy on February 28, 2008, 12:03:12 pm
Nice box - and all those sexy little golden things inside. Looks like a bunch of guys aught to be sitting around it with a beer in thier hands, hahahaha :D. I gotta get one of those built, had to leave my stave in the stovepipe for the nine days I'm at work - I know it's getting hotter on one end :-\.
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: JackCrafty on February 28, 2008, 12:25:53 pm
That's my next project.  The insulation board is a great idea....clean and simple.  ;D

It also looks like moisture can escape through gaps around the cover (I can see light shining through).....maybe no need for holes?   Hmmm....Is there a thermometer somewhere?
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 04:24:18 pm
http://www.geocities.com/salampsio/hotbox.htm

Jackrafty   Theres the link to the site with the plans. I am very pleased with the ease and economy of its design and function. Yeah it has some space in the lid so I think  moisture aspiration should be fine. I noticed this mornig that only two of the bulbs were working and its still plenty warm in there. I will probabely install a digital thermometer at about stave high so I can tell how hot its really getting. The dimmer isn't working either but I guess it does'nt matter as the fan and lights are doing their thing..

Cowboy  You know you might be a redneck when your 17yr old daughter wants to use your stave hotbox as a tanning bed. Won't be posting that beauty in the hotbox pics thats for sure ...and don't you ole pervs get to visualizen neither...lol

Tom Sawyer The fan is a little cheapy from walmart my 13uyr old daughter donated from here room. Don't know how loing it'll last but it'll do for now. Yes it runs all the time.

DannM  Gold shannon you say? Eye laddy so it does.
  My wife is very cool about these things. Thats in the computer room too by the way She doesn't mind my staves being anywhere in the house temporarily but if they become intrusive well then thats just not very considerate on my part and I always I try to be considerate. Lest I wanta box...lol

Thanks Pappy and Rick for the kind words.    Danny
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2008, 04:59:26 pm
Sorry fer the confusion danny when I typed that I only had one eye open barely ;)
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 05:07:37 pm
lol Dana
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: cowboy on February 28, 2008, 05:47:59 pm
Hahahaha ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2008, 07:59:53 pm
Hey it was early and the coffee was still brewing ::) Whatever still looks like a box of gold ;D
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: ricktrojanowski on February 28, 2008, 08:10:38 pm
A cheap easy thermometer to use is an "remote" cooking thermometer.  You put the sensor in the box and a wire runs out to a display that you can affix to the box.  I think mine was about 20 bucks from a cooking store. 
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2008, 08:12:02 pm
I've got a all-in-one thermometer and humidity gauge in mine, stole it from the wife >:D
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 08:40:08 pm
See thats what I was thinking about. Might have to make a run to Bed Bath and Beyond ( eeeekkkk). They don't know me over there like they do at Lowes...I walk into Lowes and the cashiers all holler "Norm". Bet they'll have a good one though. They got all kinds of cooking gadgets in that place.   

DanaM   I liked the "Gold Shannon" comment. It does have the same shimmer as what I envision a pot o gold to have and for those of us struck with the disease of bowitus ,well, it is gold.        Danny
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: ricktrojanowski on February 28, 2008, 09:17:46 pm
You should have seen the looks I got from the sales lady when I told her what I was using the thermometer for.  I got a sweet double boiler for sinew there also.  It was only 14 bucks.  I'm pretty sure it was a store called Linens and Things. 
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2008, 09:28:47 pm
Danny I thought this was a thread by sawfiler aka Shannon, you can see how easy it is to confuse ya eh
sawfiler - sidewinder quite similar when one is still half asleep ::)
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 09:35:52 pm
Now I gotcha, I'm a little slow and half goofy my ownself. Lol  Danny
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Marc St Louis on February 28, 2008, 09:47:52 pm
Nice. I made one several years ago and when I use it, which is not that often, I put my Thermometer/RH meter in there to monitor both moisture and heat
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: kayakfisher on February 28, 2008, 10:02:13 pm
Nice box looks like it will do the job, you ought to ship it to me and let me try it out for awhile to make sure its safe  :D
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Sidewinder on February 28, 2008, 10:17:16 pm
Marc, I imagine when I have been at it as long as you I will have built up a good enough stash of staves that are already  cured too. At least that would be the goal.

Kayak its super easy to make and does'nt cost more than 30.00  click on the link above and you are on your way to having one.  Danny
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: kayakfisher on February 28, 2008, 10:26:20 pm
$30.00 ! You should be able to break it down and stick it in a manilla envelope and ship it to me for $1.30 yes I went to the link and printed it off going to make me one I have room in my shed ,OH I mean by bowyers den for it thanks
Title: Re: Beauties in the hotbox
Post by: Stonedog on February 29, 2008, 09:35:40 am
I really need to build one!  I use Urac for my glue ups, and I keep my house at 65F.....that means no bow work at the moment!  I have a core ready for a hickory backing that is just sitting and mocking my non-progress!  Although Urac doesn't need heat.....it sure woudl be nice to have a spot to keep it above 70F!